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Author:  Cygnus [ Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Swarming
Please, for the love of god fix it. I got killed by a swarm of a dozen rags today, and there's really nothing i can do to survive in a situation like that.

And this was in PROTECTED SPACE!


Please...for the love of god...just fix it...
Author:  saran [ Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Swarming
Better idea, fix the low level swarms. And re-introduce the ones in peril space like we used to have ages ago.

where you can find 8-12 BGs with a random sprinkling of ice pickles to contend with. I LOVED those days. It actually meant something to travel in space and it was dangerous. The only thing I need worry about today is that a pirate will come along and interrupt my autopilot.
Author:  Battlecruiser23 [ Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Swarming
BG's are not dangerous. They are too much tank, not enough dps.

Forgones, Picks, Vultures, and Wattages...maybe throw in a GB or 6. Thats fun.
Author:  saran [ Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Swarming
Battlecruiser23 wrote:
BG's are not dangerous. They are too much tank, not enough dps.

Forgones, Picks, Vultures, and Wattages...maybe throw in a GB or 6. Thats fun.


well I was simply giving an example from way back when. Ofc you'd have to mix it with the critters we have nowadays.
Author:  Rounder [ Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Swarming
Admittedly, the hordes of ships in low-DF gals are quite fun to look at. Kinda sucks I guess if your on a new alt and they're aggressive as opposed to the passive say hue/zebu swarms.

Maybe nerf certain swarms like the Dark Guards, Rags, and such? Even then, small groups of them are always good exp.
Author:  Spartanski Smok [ Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Swarming
saran wrote:
Better idea, fix the low level swarms. And re-introduce the ones in peril space like we used to have ages ago.

where you can find 8-12 BGs with a random sprinkling of ice pickles to contend with. I LOVED those days. It actually meant something to travel in space and it was dangerous. The only thing I need worry about today is that a pirate will come along and interrupt my autopilot.


+1~!
Author:  Cygnus [ Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Swarming
Yeah, sure, fine my me. The number of AI in perilous space is pathetic these days, anyway.

Then again, i would prefer it if perilous was seperated into different AI nodes, but that would be a lot more complicated.
Author:  Xonok2 [ Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Swarming
Make protected systems protected, any AI that is above level 10 is never a vermin. And to swarming elsewhere, just set limits to AI per team, would fix so much.
Author:  Visorak [ Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Swarming
Xonok2 wrote:
Make protected systems protected, any AI that is above level 10 is never a vermin.

This. And at the very least, any hostile AI team should never swarm bigger that 3 at a time. (mainly Voltages, Ampages, Rags)
Author:  Blue Dwarf [ Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Swarming
Cygnus wrote:
Then again, i would prefer it if perilous was seperated into different AI nodes, but that would be a lot more complicated.

I'm intrigued... Develop on this? :)
Author:  Battlecruiser23 [ Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Swarming
Blue Dwarf wrote:
Cygnus wrote:
Then again, i would prefer it if perilous was seperated into different AI nodes, but that would be a lot more complicated.

I'm intrigued... Develop on this? :)


It's been said time and time again. Cyg and I came up with the most thought out suggestions on it.

Basically, each AI is a faction. Forgones, Greens, Reavers, Picks, Vultures, and Bana. And each has a "home" area where they spawn with the highest numbers. Special versions only spawn here; normal ones dont have to.

DG's in their space only contain their enemies(pocket resistance), missions are done for killing these enemies, etc.

"Neutral" (Perilous) space surround ai nodes.

For example, Forgones. Forgones have *owned* galaxies, normal pillboxes, the big pillboxes like Greens and Picks, maybe a few warp drones and such in their territory. Forgone Fighters(LF), Forgones(1, 2, 3), and Mega Forgones(CS) spawn in the space, but Forgones(1) can spawn in "normal" Perilous space. The DG's contain Picks and Greens, of various kinds, likewise is with forgones in Green owned DG's
Author:  Xonok2 [ Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Swarming
This really should go in, quite a nice idea, would also make some things better.
Author:  Cygnus [ Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Swarming
Yeah, he pretty much summed it up with that. It would make it less likely for you to run into combinations of enemies that are impossible to fight, while maintaining the dynamics you've got currently.
Author:  Furtive Ferret [ Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Swarming
neat idea indeed, I like it.
Perhaps the immediate 3 nodesw off neutral would be forgie, pick, BG.
Could have some very nasty areas like Hive, Delquad and Wattage off them :P
Author:  saran [ Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Swarming
Furtive Ferret wrote:
neat idea indeed, I like it.
Perhaps the immediate 3 nodesw off neutral would be forgie, pick, BG.
Could have some very nasty areas like Hive, Delquad and Wattage off them :P


naw, those fellas + drops and wattages just spread everywhere. With increasing numbers of agro ai like drops and MF picks and forgones in deeper DFs.
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