Then get t21 already.

Did you say that gunners have shit Dps without missiles after seeing and fighting mine?...

A while ago, I said that to you, then you brought up your gunner.

I mention my gunner because I control him. There are many other, more powerful weapon gunners. Had you ever seen what a HM gunner is able to do?

Reading this comment has given me so much insight. Apparently HPA isn't actually skilled with the class, he is just practicing the same dickery that we all did to exploit Sniper when it was beefed. He just augged for range to kill large, slow targets.

With that said HPA, skill is not the ability to fire at classes slower than you. A skilled Sniper would have managed to shut down the seer, or at least evade it.

I always make sure i have at least 1 range boosting augmenter on a sniper ship. Sharpshooting skill isn't enough, you're not going to just face enemies with 1.5k range, some AI have much greater range than that and the farther you can shoot, the safer your sniper is.

So in short, you agree with ShawnMcCall.

Because snipers should aug more for DPS than for range. Just like how speed demons don't use hit and run tactics in pvp, snipers should not rely on firing and hiding much because it reduces their DPS.

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not. Sds love hit and run with a verv weapon in pvp.

Because we didn't actually build viable snipers that we then developed the skill to properly use. We built paper thin ultra long range drones basically that did everything behind a 5k distance buffer while semi-afk.

Compare that to Doman (I think?) who was an actual sniper at the time of the beef, and continued to play his class with skill. He had less than a third of the range of my sniper, yet when he warped into Colo everyone present had a solid 3-5 minutes before they were dead (that included seers the "anti-sniper" class).

He was just as likely to engage you from 300 distance as he was to hit you from 1.5k+, he was not exceptionally tanky or fast, and yet he fucked shit up, because he knew how to run a sniper in literally all situations (no, running farther away in all situations does not constitute knowing how to use the class). As opposed to today's sniper who only knows how to attack something out of range to retaliate.

P.S. I readily admit that I am not a brilliant sniper. I am okay with the class, however most people that claim grandeur as a sniper are not really good at the game, just good at having more range than the other guy.

i like my sniper 1 shot 1 kill, regardless of rage also the you cant see me aspect~

wait that sounds like a seer xD

So you think that instead of DPH, snipers should aug more for DPS and RoF?

I don't understand why a sniper would want to aug for DPH. It's only useful at pvb against soaks.