AS A P2P YOU SHOULD BE IMMUNE FROM ANY PvP ATTEMPTS FROM F2P PLAYERS!

f2p can't go to perilous, can't shoot in wild space, and no one can pvp in earthforce space.

are you going to take the tech 20 and 21 skills from any F2P who happened to get them during this bug time?

-ERMAN

I don't really see the point.

How does an F2P in a tech 21 ship not make anyone else concerned?

tech 21 will be end game for a while. I mean seriously, lets just face facts and be real that tech 22 wont be out for a long, long time. You guys had plans for new tech levels each successive uni? You have been bug fixing this whole uni and who knows what will happen next uni.

To get people to pay, they have to have some reason to want to.

-ERMAN

I quess the deper point is: f2ps cant do anything with it ;D

I don't see it either. If you legitimately obtained something that you were allowed to obtain, and had it taken away because someone else got jealous, the repercussions are just insane.

You can easily expect the player to rage and probably quit, in the process telling all his or her friends not to play SS.

The admins cannot cover up that if that got out to other websites, spiraling the problem out of control. It isn't like some noob slandering Voomy, cough Bonecrusher cough, this is the admins giving favor to a specific player or group over another.

And that, would actually kill SS.

I think the point is that f2p weren't supposed to be able to legitimately obtain these skills.

Anyone feel like commenting on this idea, I feel it got skipped over, and I think it would be a solution to the problem.

it was a bug...

sometimes i just dont get you people.

-ERMAN

Who cares? Let it slide. No need to create fuss over something they will never be able to use in a pvp sense.

Someone check to make sure he doesnt have a F2P alt that has full tech 21 skills...

And cant you pvp in celestial?

-ERMAN

no pvp in celestial

I never really cared if f2p could get tech 20/21 or not. The point is not to make the game crappy for f2p's so that they will pay. The point is to give away as much as we can that has zero marginal cost to us. The parts of the game with non-zero marginal cost is mainly wild space, since the more people building, the more real estate there needs to be, and pvp areas such as wild space, perilous, and uz. f2p's who don't take up building space and don't crowd out the pvp areas are an asset to the game. They can visit p2p's shops and buy stuff, if they like the game, they can evangelize and bring their friends, and they could eventually pay.

I'm not looking to eventually get a few hundred more p2p's. I really want a few thousand more, and to eventually get there, I think we need as many people playing and enjoying the game as possible, even if the percentage of people who go p2p is reduced. I mean, we already have about a 90% rate of people who play the game going p2p. What we need to dramatically increase somehow is the pool of total players from which to convert f2p's into p2p's.

Step 1. Give f2ps a little freedom
Step 2. Remove that freedom, watch them complain.
Step 3. Look like the good guy and give back lots of freedom (more than before)
Step 4. Remove all f2p content and watch as they all turn p2p.
Step 5. Remove Timmeh.
Step 6. Profit?