Alright, let's make some scenarios.

SBP wants to BvB a galaxy in an owned team space. We either have to:

1. Move our HQ for the attack, and get our entire team space in danger.

2. Border the galaxies we wish to attack.

If a HQ is moved, it takes 24 hours (That is a bloody long time) to get the base slots to even start the attack. This is plenty of time for any defenders to fortify and make decisions (just look at the attack on Futile)

Or we can

1. PvB their galaxies and either split their team space (This takes another 24 hours as far as I recall, if not even more?)

2. PvB the galaxy and kill the kits through PvB, then own the galaxy (Which normally takes a long time in a good galaxy).

So I don't see the big problem about this being a fast method to wipe galaxies. If a BvB kit dies, it will also go unowned if the defending team kills the BvB kit and BvBs the bordering gal that the enemy used. The thing here is that this went quick because Death Mental had their entire team space unowned, so they hardly knew anything before we had our BvB kit down, and therefore it was a fast process. Team spaces aren't meant to be unowned.

Apart from that I agree that some things should be tweaked. For example, the time it takes from the entire galaxy is dead until you can force a hostile takeover is too short. But removing it in general will also remove the possibility that the defending team actually can gain a lot of gear from winning the fight as they could also use the same tactic back on the offenders if they do it right.

Yeah, this narrow-minded fix will just mean that we will see the same amount of BvBing the next 5-6 universes as we saw the last week. Jeff, time to discuss if you wish BvB to even exist in this game anymore after these changes, because right now there are no incentives to even go after another teams space unless you just wish to harm them by killing their kits so they have to spend credits on repair them (We all know how expensive that is).

Comparing this to real life will not get you anywhere as we are talking about in-game mechanics goett.

And having you sitting here and again making a post accusing SBP of being unreasonable because Bageese stepped up as PR/Support leader is just childish goett. It has about as much value to this discussion as a bucket of nothing.

The mechanic isn't that horrible either, it is about the only reason a team has to gain something properly from a BvB attack. The mechanic needs tweaking, and if you ask why, then I will gladly advice you to try kill a galaxy with radiation only to capture a kit, and please, start with SBPs Ada kits, because you will then see that some kits are really impossible to take down. The gear that falls off a dead kit is poor, and is not worth the time and effort in a BvB, so there are at least two things to discuss here instead of sitting around and acting like a baby which you do now goett. Welcome back to the game by the way, you have lost your grip.

What? Normal PvB, BvB takes too long so abusing bugs is fine?

Don't be a douche.
1. Comparing like that is called an analogy. Why it works
2. It's already been stated as a bug by Jeff (your a comm rep still? Cmon...)
3. It is a crap mechanic. So yes tweak it and quit splitting your arguments like a child. Choices are not all or none. Capping sucked as much as the current mechanic. So... Tweak it there champ, is supposedly why you have the position you were given.

On another note... As a community rep potty mouth is frowned upon big guy. Grow some nuts and assume your role. 'fair and balanced' is what you should be chanting in the future. Your flames just make you look... Silly tbh.

that would be on par with the new pvp system of no losses, looks like the model he is following. Good for new player growth, bad for the people who wish to cartel up and control people by force.

And that also brings me to the point of "abusing" this as a bug. If it was a bug, then Jeff should be the person to blame as this tactic was used and posted about on the forums at least once, and used twice in game with support tickets with complaints about the tactic.

So basically the rules were given, but if Jeff now realizes that it isn't what he meant it to be like, then yes it can now be considered a bug when Jeff made his stand. But at any time before he made that stand, then it can't be considered a bug at all.

It is not anyones fault but those who refused to follow the guidelines for issues like this. It clearly says that when you find a bug, you are expected to report it, and not abuse it. If you in any way get an item that you are not supposed to, you have already abused it, and the fault is not on the developer that gave Impassable Protections to Slumberchromes about 5 years ago, but solely on the player that abused it.

You should be loosing out if you were given an item like this, or you purchased it, because you are not supposed to have it in the first place. So if you feel that you are being dispossessed of anything that you feel belongs to you, then put the blame on the person who gave or sold you the item.

The item is AI gear, same for BLAZERs and Attack Overloaders.

QFT

Comparing this to real life will not get you anywhere as we are talking about in-game mechanics goett.

And having you sitting here and again making a post accusing SBP of being unreasonable because Bageese stepped up as PR/Support leader is just childish goett.

.... so there are at least two things to discuss here instead of sitting around and acting like a baby which you do now goett. Welcome back to the game by the way, you have lost your grip.

Being a community team member is different from my role as a player in game. I would never be a part of that team if I wasn't allowed to play this game to the fully that I pay for. So use that argument as much as you want, but it doesn't really work that way.

If there's no special rules why was I kicked out for quoting Churchill saying 'dildo'? You can be a comm relations rep and be inflammatory? Then that truly is hippocritical somewhere.

I was kicked out of mods for an exploit I reported... Later revoked only by Jeff because he failed to see how an inactive player who also reported the exploit got banned. Still not remodded.

The bullshit runs up the walls sonetimes in this game. Guess why I play less?

You start the fight, get raped, now you're crying because you lost base gear? Isn't that the entire point of PvP in this game, to take other peoples stuff to further your cause?

Sorry, but DM were the "bullies" first in this game. On Progress, we didn't cry when it was 20v1 at 4 in the morning. We didn't cry on the forums when we lost gear or entire galaxies because we only had 5 members, all of which were in the same time zone. We didn't cry when all you guys brought were tractor ship alts with 10k range that you just had afk pulling bases or players.

Grow some fricking balls and accept the consequences for starting a war when your team space wasn't even owned, how stupid can you be?