I'm really not off base, if he was trying to help, he would just help. Hell, even Lemon usually gives warning orders before he attacks unprovoked (and usually sticks to attacking those who can, or should be able to, fight back), 13 exclusively attacks people who cannot fight back. Also you say that he is good for the game because he "has a proven track record of helping noobs rebuild stronger," but I would be more interested in seeing the numbers on the noobs that just said "fuck it" and didn't come back.

how does Eve stop 5 tril players killing 5bil players out in wild space?

This.

The fact is, I don't agree with his opinion on what the game needs to thrive. Let's run some numbers, shall we? Say Makka's right and a gal defense of 1 Dem20 kit should be balanced to defray the level of PvB that -13- can bring to bear. Do you realize that this would swiftly bring any and all territorial conflict in SS to an end? It would mean that anyone who even just lays a couple Dem20 kits (or better) would be all but immune from any level of galaxy assault.

So I respectfully disagree with the position that what SS really needs to thrive is to coddle our long-time midgamers who refuse to exercise even the slightest bit of sense in claiming territory. The result of that would be an end to territorial conflict, one of the signature aspects of this game. I am happy to concede that the game could provide more measures to scaffold new players into proper building practices, but in this case we are dealing with a veteran who's had plenty of time and opportunities to learn his lesson and resolutely refused to do so.

I'll end with a quote from page 1:

That's a nice-sounding pronouncement, but it doesn't even come close to applying to SS.

1) We don't have open PvP. We have an entire Earthforce layer for those who want to build in complete safety. You may scoff at this, but just take a look at teams like EF that have humped that layer for mining score and colonies.

2) We don't have total loss. With powerful Andaman and Achilles base gear available for effectively no cost, and with extremely powerful Annihilator XYZ gear available for only the cost of raw materials, the only loss incurred from a full galaxy wipe is the opportunity cost of industry in that galaxy. The cost of kits and augs is non-refundable regardless, but as I have mentioned several times, galaxy defense can be accomplished using nothing other than vanilla T12 kits and Adonis augs.

3) Galaxy industry and defense is not based on longterm investment, other than the leveling of characters. Anyone with an account or two of midlevel characters can turn a handsome profit in Wild Space. There is no requirement of building up an investment over months and years before this is possible.

I did this like 50 times you twat, which was said. And youre clearly ignorant as fuck, as I dont ever pvb.

Not exactly. He saw what you did to SP & said he wanted to do something similar but with smaller teams, so he attacks the ones who don't have a shot at winning and then demands 100b to end the war. Funnily enough it was around the time he did that big shoutout on the forums for being homosexual. It seems to me that -13- is having a hissy fit, whilst trying to cover it up by acting like a white knight.

"No! THEY R TREATIN ME LIKE A BASTURD ILL TREAT THEM LIKE A BASTURD ILL SHOW THEM IM GONNA WIPE THEIR GALS OUT & SAY IM HELPING THEM!"

Incorrect, he may have done that in the past but lately he's been all about tough love with midlevel teams, as seen here.

Many times have I and other people asked teams to fix their gals, and they didn't care because they were never attacked before. I dislike attacking people without an appropriate reason (In my opinion) but I also don't like people getting resources without actually defending it.

Balance in all things

The issue is threefold.

1. There is nothing that actually pushes people to defend. Any single player at the appropriate DF can annihilate AI threats with ease. As long as the collective group of bases is at equal level to that player, then there is no effective threat to the bases, meaning limited defenses are built.

2. There is a ridiculous amount of uncontested and unclaimed space for people the build in. The entire playerbase could cherry pick with zero defenses at all, and I'll bet that there will still be at least 500 gals untouched. The results are predictable: People spread out to cherry pick the very best in a given area.

3. There is nothing at all, except asking a more competent builder (98% an older player and usually on the Big 6 teams) about how to build a better defense. People don't know if things are in the wrong or how they can improve what they think is an already good defense, until someone knocks it down. And when it comes down, it's usually so fast that the defenders don't exactly know why their defense failed in such a way.

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I am very much disregarding idiots like Yeh11a that intentionally build crap and expect no one will attack them. Even with 10 accounts of his quality, I can't fathom the idea of holding 10+ galaxies. I'll be looking at 5 or 6 bases per galaxy. And from my perspective, I can knock that down with Junkyard kits. I would be terrified of anything less than 20 bases per gal. The first line of defense is showing any would be attackers that it will be an uphill struggle to take my team's space whether we're online or not.

Ahhh, those rare occasions when I agree with Churchill.

One thing is this univ there been some changes to bases. Overloads, Only use item marked base gear.
No more using Non Base solar Panel on bases. No using OS X-Surgical lasers on T9.
When was the last time you saw a Base Z aug BP drop? got to have been at least 2 years for me a T9 assult Z aug. has better stats that a T12 Assult Aug.
For T16 been using Kituo Selea 5 aug. attached bases

Some people i seen and gone - some where good players
MUCH13S, J01NT, SP33D, Sky Haussmann, Balin, Army_Girl, Vipor, Demon_Spawn,
Can remember the name Did a lot of work on Wiki - Got the Wiki Ship for all his work

That's Simon you're thinking of.