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So far 7 bnf kills in a row and the only thing that dropped was nightfury burst crate. 33% drop chance for an item yes sounds about right. Actually I didn't have any loots from bnf since july


That's not even close to enough trials to call the drop chance into question. If you get up to 0-15 or 0-20 then we can talk.

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So far 7 bnf kills in a row and the only thing that dropped was nightfury burst crate. 33% drop chance for an item yes sounds about right. Actually I didn't have any loots from bnf since july


That's not even close to enough trials to call the drop chance into question. If you get up to 0-15 or 0-20 then we can talk.


And you must also understand that people are not going to kill bosses 15-20 times on end just to get 1 piece of gear & then having to do it another 15-20 times to get the next one. Do we really need to make this game a farm/grind?

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Me and Lemon did BNF with like, 1 zerk, 1 trist, 2-3 shms, 1 fc, 1 engi before. Before BNF's shield regen/bank was reduced.


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7 kills means 7 weeks of doing the boss and no loots. The lockout is 7 days. Are you telling me I have to pay for a 4 month sub to get one piece of bnf gear to drop?

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7 kills means 7 weeks of doing the boss and no loots. The lockout is 7 days. Are you telling me I have to pay for a 4 month sub to get one piece of bnf gear to drop?


No (Daedalus), I'm telling you that on average, you'll have to do the lockout 3 times to get a piece of gear.

I just did it with 1 zerk/sniper/shm/gunner/engi/fc and Im sure you can even drop the gunner if you really wanted to. It's not that hard of a boss, honestly.

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7 kills means 7 weeks of doing the boss and no loots. The lockout is 7 days. Are you telling me I have to pay for a 4 month sub to get one piece of bnf gear to drop?


No, I'm saying that 7 kills isn't a large enough sample size to base a complaint off of. You may have personally been unlucky but the rate of item sourcing across all player kills is not at fault.

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Me and Lemon did BNF with like, 1 zerk, 1 trist, 2-3 shms, 1 fc, 1 engi before. Before BNF's shield regen/bank was reduced.

Sounds like a regular BNF group to me.


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Danger wrote:
Me and Lemon did BNF with like, 1 zerk, 1 trist, 2-3 shms, 1 fc, 1 engi before. Before BNF's shield regen/bank was reduced.

Sounds like a regular BNF group to me.

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the white wizard wrote:
7 kills means 7 weeks of doing the boss and no loots. The lockout is 7 days. Are you telling me I have to pay for a 4 month sub to get one piece of bnf gear to drop?


No, I'm saying that 7 kills isn't a large enough sample size to base a complaint off of. You may have personally been unlucky but the rate of item sourcing across all player kills is not at fault.


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anilv wrote:
the white wizard wrote:
7 kills means 7 weeks of doing the boss and no loots. The lockout is 7 days. Are you telling me I have to pay for a 4 month sub to get one piece of bnf gear to drop?


No, I'm saying that 7 kills isn't a large enough sample size to base a complaint off of. You may have personally been unlucky but the rate of item sourcing across all player kills is not at fault.


brings back memories of Trevor trying for the RC commod in RP


I was remembering that too :lol:

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Fyi, Jeff is secretly choosing which runs should drop what. When he sees a try-hard noob squad come in and barely make it, he is impressed, and dispenses phat loot.

On the other hand, face-rolling the boss means it is almost very likely you will probably but not definitely not get lewt. There are serious facts behind this pretty much proven hypothesis - i.e., I have tested it many times, and my data is statistically significant.

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Fyi, Jeff is secretly choosing which runs should drop what. When he sees a try-hard noob squad come in and barely make it, he is impressed, and dispenses phat loot.

On the other hand, face-rolling the boss means it is almost very likely you will probably but not definitely not get lewt. There are serious facts behind this pretty much proven hypothesis - i.e., I have tested it many times, and my data is statistically significant.


If had opposite findings, the longer you take the shittier the lewt is. Source: Science.

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TIL: Rhice has not gotten phatlewt in over a decade.

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anilv wrote:
the white wizard wrote:
So far 7 bnf kills in a row and the only thing that dropped was nightfury burst crate. 33% drop chance for an item yes sounds about right. Actually I didn't have any loots from bnf since july


That's not even close to enough trials to call the drop chance into question. If you get up to 0-15 or 0-20 then we can talk.


And you must also understand that people are not going to kill bosses 15-20 times on end just to get 1 piece of gear & then having to do it another 15-20 times to get the next one. Do we really need to make this game a farm/grind?


I remember clearly doing a little over 50 emp run just to finally get my first emp ray ! (yes it took me over a year T_T) only to have 3 drop in a row after lol. such is rng T_T.

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There are many PPS dgs, a lockout for one is 1h. Only a proper "high end" squad can do many pps dgs, noob teams can do only a chosen few. The high end squad can do many dgs so they get more drops as a reward for the more work they do. A noob squad can take weeks to get their burst drops from the few chosen very easy dgs, but a high end squad can get many bursts within a few days because they can do many difficult dgs. When a noob squad gets the burst their strength increases and they can do more dgs. BNF is 7 days lockout and only one.

Lately I've been thinking about making a suggestion to let players choose the difficulty of the boss just like WoW raids, but who would bother to make suggestions here? I for sure would not.

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