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jack the ripper wrote:

I gave stiffy my word I wouldnt attack him. I did anyway. Just thought Id make it clear so we can save ourselves some time

Harrison42 wrote:

Not to be a moaning bitch, but the team Toxic was mine and Adams idea, a way to both have a team together. i have never ran a team before and its something i think i would highly enjoy (am so far) but it has not even been a month from creating it, and we allready have someone that wont leave the team alone, and im not sure why.

what does it take to get people to leave you alone in this game, i feel sorry for new players and new teams.

Harrison42 wrote:

what does it take to get people to leave you alone in this game, i feel sorry for new players and new teams.

Pontius123 wrote:

Tbh, 13's claim "No one has asked me to stop; I'll stop if you *just* ask" is a little wonky. I still have those logs. As soon as I asked, he gave me a surrender term. That is ask and accept a surrender term before he stops, not ask and he stops as he said.

I also have the screen of Pete (Fitz) saying unless provoked (oh, it's so easy to provoke 13. Just showing up in a travel ship you forgot to activate cloak on was enough to provoke 13), Ada Souls will cease attacks for a small one time fee of 50 billion credits.

Given 13 broke the promise to Stifler, and pretty sure I know what provoked 13 to boot DSF from his protected species alliance earlier, I simply can't trust 13's words. If I give him (Pete) 50b to "end the aggression", if something as stupid as a low level DSF member *watching Ada Souls attack Ascension Logistics* is enough to provoke 13, thereby nullifying the potential agreement. I would *hope* that won't provoke him, as watching is not "getting involved in politics" according to 13's original surrender terms, but the coincidence of the guy watching, 13 seeing him, connecting "he might have called in reinforcements", 13 being wiped out by said reinforcements, and concluding with 13 warring DSF and the current situation.

I just can't be sure based off what happened to Stifler.

While 50b is pretty much nothing to our team in the long run, the potential ease in accidentally provoking 13 and how easy he broke his promise is enough to reject the offer. That, and everyone else on the team flat out refused both the original surrender and the offer from Pete.

Pontius123 wrote:

As for 13 himself...it's like being mad at a thunderstorm for zapping you. Like, who actually runs out in the rain with *metal* rods and expecting the lightning to not hit home?

Pontius123 wrote:

I assumed that Pete did this with 13's blessing, since I see him and david most often when Ada Souls is concerned and 13 is absent. I had assumed he was the other councilor. Normally people don't have two of their own characters as Director/Councilor. Haven't encountered a team (more than 3 people) that had this situation for about 5 years. Pete also appeared to have some council-recognition with the original surrender term thing.

redalert150 wrote:

Starsodrama meter: 5/10

Author:	jack the ripper [ Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:02 am ]
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I gave stiffy my word I wouldnt attack him. I did anyway. Just thought Id make it clear so we can save ourselves some time

Author:	jack the ripper [ Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:20 am ]
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whee rep 1 3

Author:	Pontius123 [ Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:06 am ]
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jack the ripper wrote: I gave stiffy my word I wouldnt attack him. I did anyway. Just thought Id make it clear so we can save ourselves some time If Pete had any wonder to why that offer was rejected, he should know now.

Author:	Harrison42 [ Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:20 am ]
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Not to be a moaning bitch, but the team Toxic was mine and Adams idea, a way to both have a team together. i have never ran a team before and its something i think i would highly enjoy (am so far) but it has not even been a month from creating it, and we allready have someone that wont leave the team alone, and im not sure why. what does it take to get people to leave you alone in this game, i feel sorry for new players and new teams.

Author:	jack the ripper [ Sat Jan 21, 2017 12:23 pm ]
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Harrison42 wrote: Not to be a moaning bitch, but the team Toxic was mine and Adams idea, a way to both have a team together. i have never ran a team before and its something i think i would highly enjoy (am so far) but it has not even been a month from creating it, and we allready have someone that wont leave the team alone, and im not sure why. what does it take to get people to leave you alone in this game, i feel sorry for new players and new teams. Oh, the tides. No one on toxic was complaining when you had an alliance behind you and you were blowing JY kits. Why is it ok for you to attack me (when I hadn't attacked you), but if I attack you I'm a demon! (Yes, I realize I lied. But come on. 1/4th dps Ada kits?...) As far as max's claim, you guys wouldn't even hear my terms. And I wasn't charging anything. All you had to do was say yes and had peace, even if it were temporary. Even if that weren't the case, you wouldn't even hear terms. That's not very tacticaly sound. You pose no threat to me, I have no idea why you guys would just completely refuse to even hear terms. That makes no sense at all lol. In conclusion, fuck you all

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Author:	Pontius123 [ Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:36 pm ]
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Tbh, 13's claim "No one has asked me to stop; I'll stop if you just ask" is a little wonky. I still have those logs. As soon as I asked, he gave me a surrender term. That is ask and accept a surrender term before he stops, not ask and he stops as he said. I also have the screen of Pete (Fitz) saying unless provoked (oh, it's so easy to provoke 13. Just showing up in a travel ship you forgot to activate cloak on was enough to provoke 13), Ada Souls will cease attacks for a small one time fee of 50 billion credits. Given 13 broke the promise to Stifler, and pretty sure I know what provoked 13 to boot DSF from his protected species alliance earlier, I simply can't trust 13's words. If I give him (Pete) 50b to "end the aggression", if something as stupid as a low level DSF member watching Ada Souls attack Ascension Logistics is enough to provoke 13, thereby nullifying the potential agreement. I would hope that won't provoke him, as watching is not "getting involved in politics" according to 13's original surrender terms, but the coincidence of the guy watching, 13 seeing him, connecting "he might have called in reinforcements", 13 being wiped out by said reinforcements, and concluding with 13 warring DSF and the current situation. I just can't be sure based off what happened to Stifler. While 50b is pretty much nothing to our team in the long run, the potential ease in accidentally provoking 13 and how easy he broke his promise is enough to reject the offer. That, and everyone else on the team flat out refused both the original surrender and the offer from Pete.

Author:	jack the ripper [ Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:26 pm ]
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Pontius123 wrote: Tbh, 13's claim "No one has asked me to stop; I'll stop if you just ask" is a little wonky. I still have those logs. As soon as I asked, he gave me a surrender term. That is ask and accept a surrender term before he stops, not ask and he stops as he said. I also have the screen of Pete (Fitz) saying unless provoked (oh, it's so easy to provoke 13. Just showing up in a travel ship you forgot to activate cloak on was enough to provoke 13), Ada Souls will cease attacks for a small one time fee of 50 billion credits. Given 13 broke the promise to Stifler, and pretty sure I know what provoked 13 to boot DSF from his protected species alliance earlier, I simply can't trust 13's words. If I give him (Pete) 50b to "end the aggression", if something as stupid as a low level DSF member watching Ada Souls attack Ascension Logistics is enough to provoke 13, thereby nullifying the potential agreement. I would hope that won't provoke him, as watching is not "getting involved in politics" according to 13's original surrender terms, but the coincidence of the guy watching, 13 seeing him, connecting "he might have called in reinforcements", 13 being wiped out by said reinforcements, and concluding with 13 warring DSF and the current situation. I just can't be sure based off what happened to Stifler. While 50b is pretty much nothing to our team in the long run, the potential ease in accidentally provoking 13 and how easy he broke his promise is enough to reject the offer. That, and everyone else on the team flat out refused both the original surrender and the offer from Pete. Most of this is alarmingly accurate. However, I had no knowledge of the 50b thing. Idr, but I dont think my terms involved and crazy payment and was basically just 'stick to 3 gals'. Protected species treaty was disbanded, had nothing to do w DSF afair. The provoking thing is definitely accurate and true. as far as the asking to stop thing, asking to end war/for terms or what ever is a lot different than what I mean when I say 'no ones asked me to stop'. By this, I mean no one has humbly come to me and submitted. If someone comes to be and asks me on a personal level to stop because its making them sad, or w/e happens to you plebs, I will always stop. I dont do anything in SS to cause people actual pain, unless you're heavy, stiffy, or a couple very select others.

Author:	redalert150 [ Sat Jan 21, 2017 6:29 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Breaking promise
Starsodrama meter: 5/10

Author:	Pontius123 [ Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:36 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Breaking promise
I assumed that Pete did this with 13's blessing, since I see him and david most often when Ada Souls is concerned and 13 is absent. I had assumed he was the other councilor. Normally people don't have two of their own characters as Director/Councilor. Haven't encountered a team (more than 3 people) that had this situation for about 5 years. Pete also appeared to have some council-recognition with the original surrender term thing. So you can kinda see the connecting the dots I did. As for 13 himself...it's like being mad at a thunderstorm for zapping you. Like, who actually runs out in the rain with metal rods and expecting the lightning to not hit home?

Author:	jack the ripper [ Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:48 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Breaking promise
Pontius123 wrote: As for 13 himself...it's like being mad at a thunderstorm for zapping you. Like, who actually runs out in the rain with metal rods and expecting the lightning to not hit home?

Author:	anilv [ Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:13 pm ]
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redalert150 wrote: Starsodrama meter: 5/10 and rising

Author:	jack the ripper [ Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:11 pm ]
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