As we have just watched a half dozen teams loose galaxies with over dozen ada kits in them, I would like to return to the subject of BvB revisions.

It is now screamingly obvios that low to mid level teams stand no chance of holding territory in ws, they will get attacked, their kits will drop, and the game will loose subs as fast as it gets them.

I have said this before, but let me repeat myself; the majority of players do not have the time or energy to PvP seriosly. When you make a requierment that to advance past tech 20 you must pvp, you alienate 9 out of 10 player from the game.

I wish to propose a new zone, t20+ buildable, w1 and w2 galaxies only, no commodities over tier 1, and no PvP. This area would be intended for players who simply wish to build a couple of ships and a weapon or three, without having to spend the 200 billion needed for an ada defended gal. This would allow casual players to advance beyond tech 20, increasing the population of the game as well as the subscriber base.

I think I personally spent 15b in that entire galaxy of mine for defense? Stifler and Zerko's individual galaxies are in the 10b range each based on what I used.

You where quoting ada kits at 20 bill each last night maxa. Make up your mind. Either they are 20 bill and 10 are not enough to hold or they are not 20 bill and we have more then enough funding for a credible defence.

I think I personally spent 15b in that entire galaxy of mine for defense? Stifler and Zerko's individual galaxies are in the 10b range each based on what I used.

You don't need ada kits for a credible defense.

Not at all lol. You may have personally spent 15b in the dsf gal, but the kits and augs had been laid for you. The overall value was 100's of bills.

I made 150b of stiffys prod. He also had 4 Ada kits down which are at least 12.5b each. He also had all kinds of Ada damps, sls, and fields when I capped his kits and took the gear.

Can we talk about the miserable failure of base amps in preventing stuff like this from happening?

Or how base thrusters have made BvB so much easier, and allowed for 1-man hit squads like -13- to attack noobier teams with absolutely no chance of defense.

Or how when there's people BvBing you with ada kits, you need ada kits to defend it. In fact, you need more.

I have a 5 ada kit galaxy which I challenge 13 to kill with 5 kits. Rules are I cannot aid my team with my characters nor can any of my teammates deploy bases/drones to assist. How does that sound? It's in Final Folly.

you can build ada kits in EF space. It doesn't take much to build.