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Author:  GrandExecutor [ Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Roll Dispute

Ace made us redo a roll for an Argeiphontes hermes+ Blueprint after I won claiming the first roll was a test. Some of the squad left after the roll and didn’t get to partake in the second. Red factions leadership refused to take action after a lengthy debate in which ace refused to give up the bp or reroll with squad members who were absent. Before solving the matter they have already started constructing the bp which is already at 70% and are telling us the only way to get it back is to buy the ship.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdfUWxZA0To

I have some other screen shots if anyone's interested.

Author:  GrandExecutor [ Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Acedousstar1 stole Argeiphontes hermes+ BP from roll

Never heard of a test roll and as far as I have no one else has either.

Author:  SwiftEagle [ Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Acedousstar1 stole Argeiphontes hermes+ BP from roll

The way he scroll the chat omg so sleek i had to view the video many times :evil:

plz show us the screenshots

Author:  ELITE [ Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Acedousstar1 stole Argeiphontes hermes+ BP from roll

Sigh. I figured it would come to this. Both Imperium and whatever team this Glorious Ascendency guy have come to me about this issue.

The councilor of Imperium agrees with me, whoever let Leander have a say in rolls is an idiot. I also do not know what a "test roll" is, but it happened and it does not count. Ace was in charge of doing the rolls, and as you can see in the handy video, he won the BP.

The other point of contention is that RedDan7 LEFT the galaxy after the "test roll" because he believed it was a real roll. Which leads to him missing the actual roll and not realizing it until later. That fault lies with him.

I have discussed this matter with all of the involved parties who've come to me, and I see no reason to do a re-roll. The evidence is in the video and with the people who came to me about it. Ace is building the blueprint.


My advice for the next time you do a public Olympus run is this: figure out a designated scooper, and a trusted person in the squad to do the rolling. Don't let randoms in the squad fuck up the rolls, and miscommunication like this will not happen.

Author:  GrandExecutor [ Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Acedousstar1 stole Argeiphontes hermes+ BP from roll

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Author:  RedDan7 [ Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Acedousstar1 stole Argeiphontes hermes+ BP from roll

ELITE wrote:
Sigh. I figured it would come to this. Both Imperium and whatever team this Glorious Ascendency guy have come to me about this issue.

The councilor of Imperium agrees with me, whoever let Leander have a say in rolls is an idiot. I also do not know what a "test roll" is, but it happened and it does not count. Ace was in charge of doing the rolls, and as you can see in the handy video, he won the BP.

The other point of contention is that RedDan7 LEFT the galaxy after the "test roll" because he believed it was a real roll. Which leads to him missing the actual roll and not realizing it until later. That fault lies with him.

I have discussed this matter with all of the involved parties who've come to me, and I see no reason to do a re-roll. The evidence is in the video and with the people who came to me about it. Ace is building the blueprint.


My advice for the next time you do a public Olympus run is this: figure out a designated scooper, and a trusted person in the squad to do the rolling. Don't let randoms in the squad fuck up the rolls, and miscommunication like this will not happen.



I'm sure most of us have watched the video, and at no point did anyone say it was a "test roll", it was announced as a test roll after the roll that Glorious won it from which Ace then won, we did have a chosen Scooper, Leander, the rolls only fucked up for the Argh Hermes+ BP, there was no issue with the many other rolls we did. In a nut shell Ace has taken the bp and used it without the issue being solved, after ignoring us repeatedly asking for a re-roll and leaving, I was then told that the only possible way to get it would be to buy the ship from Ace, Leander had no claim to the Argh Hermes+ BP and as such he had no right to apparently claim it was a test roll. The bp was won by Glorious and it was stolen from him, end of.

Author:  ELITE [ Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Acedousstar1 stole Argeiphontes hermes+ BP from roll

Screenshot the whole thing if you're going to post those. That winning roll was from Leander's "test your rolls".

After that, the real roll happened. Which you lost.

Author:  RedDan7 [ Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Acedousstar1 stole Argeiphontes hermes+ BP from roll

I wasn't in the second roll, because no one thought to tell me, which is strange, you'd think that normally you'd allow everyone to roll for an Oly Ship bp when he was in the whole run, There was no reason I couldn't have been notified, the squad chat does work. And as I said....Leander had no claim to the Argh Hermes+ BP, so he had no right to call an apparent "Test Run"(Which was announced after the roll had finished) Which means the winner of the bp was Glorious, not Ace, Ace stole the bp and refused to talk about it.

Author:  SwiftEagle [ Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Acedousstar1 stole Argeiphontes hermes+ BP from roll

All i see is 1 Screenshot of 1 roll and Glorious got the highest.

which one was the first "test roll" and which one was the normal roll?

it be nice if someone show us a screenshot of Ace having the highest on the normal roll

i dont agree with anyone being a scammer here for some noob asking for a "Test Roll" :lol: :roll:

Author:  ELITE [ Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Acedousstar1 stole Argeiphontes hermes+ BP from roll

RedDan7 wrote:
I wasn't in the second roll, because no one thought to tell me, which is strange, you'd think that normally you'd allow everyone to roll for an Oly Ship bp when he was in the whole run, There was no reason I couldn't have been notified, the squad chat does work. And as I said....Leander had no claim to the Argh Hermes+ BP, so he had no right to call an apparent "Test Run"(Which was announced after the roll had finished) Which means the winner of the bp was Glorious, not Ace, Ace stole the bp and refused to talk about it.


Blame Leander for your confusion then, seeing as he's the reason that roll happened in the first place. I'm done here as well, we've had this exact discussion ingame, and now it's on here as well. Hope that makes you feel better about misunderstanding galaxy chat.

As for the real roll, see the video that was so kindly linked. After the "test roll" that Glorious won, Ace says roll for ArgH+. Which he wins.

Author:  GrandExecutor [ Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Acedousstar1 stole Argeiphontes hermes+ BP from roll

Sorry didn't go in order when taking the shots and wasn't able to get all of them before they faded. Both rolls are in the video form 0:11 to 0:36.

Author:  GrandExecutor [ Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Acedousstar1 stole Argeiphontes hermes+ BP from roll

Isn't test your rolls a gambling term meaning see if you win?

Author:  SwiftEagle [ Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Acedousstar1 stole Argeiphontes hermes+ BP from roll

GrandExecutor wrote:
Isn't test your rolls a gambling term meaning see if you win?


Could be but everyone avoids them for this exact reason that is happening right now.

w/e Lemon is right and i wish the best of luck for you next time

Author:  anilv [ Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Acedousstar1 stole Argeiphontes hermes+ BP from roll

squad rolls >>>> /roll 100

Author:  ELITE [ Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Acedousstar1 stole Argeiphontes hermes+ BP from roll

anilv wrote:
squad rolls >>>> /roll 100


Or no rolls, socialism ftw. Pub runs are hell.

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