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Author:  anilv [ Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Augmenter Bonus Calculation
Not sure if you are trolling or just not making sense.
Author:  Rounder [ Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Augmenter Bonus Calculation
Think he's trying to say +33.45% and -25.00% cancel out?
Author:  lordjeroen [ Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Augmenter Bonus Calculation
im trying to make a calc for stuff in excel for bases and stuff and tried to use this guide
it might be my misreading or something is wrong with the resist calculation

it basicly says
1 - (damage taken / ( (tweaking bonus + 1) + aug bonus ) / ( (tweaking bonus + 1) + aug bonus ) ) * 100 = resist in %

for a minor aug, AT 25, no IT/EC and no resist on ship it will be

1 - ( 1 / ( ( 1 + 1 = 2 ) + 0.1 ) = 0,48 / ( ( 1 + 1 = 2) + 0.1 ) ) * 100 = 77.3
that means a minor aug with AT 25 gives 77.3% resist on a ship with no resist

i didnt want to make a whole new topic about it while this was still here
Author:  anilv [ Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Augmenter Bonus Calculation
Well, let me try to fix your problem. I think you are misreading something because what you have written is WAY more complicated than what I wrote on the first post. Minor Resistance Augmenter gives +10%, so what you will get with no AT and no hull resistance is

1 - (1 / (1 + 0.1) ) = 1 - 0.909 = 0.091 = 9.1% resistance.

Aside from all this, I strongly encourage you to list aug bonuses as absolute numbers and not as percents in your spreadsheet. It will save you a ton of work with your formulas and make things much easier to work with in the long run. So you'd write 0.1 instead of 10 for the aug bonus above, for example.
Author:  lordjeroen [ Sun Dec 02, 2012 6:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Augmenter Bonus Calculation
hmm makes sense now
thought this was the whole maths

Quote:
D / (1 + B) = 0.4 / (1 + 0.25) = 0.32


thanks
Author:  Rounder [ Sun Dec 02, 2012 2:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Augmenter Bonus Calculation
Damn math professors
Author:  kanescreed [ Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Augmenter Bonus Calculation
I offically now feel like a retard. Since i read every bit of this post no quick skimming. My end result is i understood nothing.



Okay i lied i skimmed everything on the very first post since it had to many numbers and stuff that i just cba.
Author:  lordjeroen [ Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Augmenter Bonus Calculation
i also had to read it 50 times to understand most of it, but it was worth it
Author:  anilv [ Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Augmenter Bonus Calculation
kanescreed wrote:
I offically now feel like a retard. Since i read every bit of this post no quick skimming. My end result is i understood nothing.



Okay i lied i skimmed everything on the very first post since it had to many numbers and stuff that i just cba.


But I already explained the hard part to you ages ago...
Author:  kanescreed [ Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Augmenter Bonus Calculation
anilv wrote:
kanescreed wrote:
I offically now feel like a retard. Since i read every bit of this post no quick skimming. My end result is i understood nothing.



Okay i lied i skimmed everything on the very first post since it had to many numbers and stuff that i just cba.


But I already explained the hard part to you ages ago...

:P
Author:  Visorak [ Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Augmenter Bonus Calculation
Why do all mathematicians speak a foreign language? :P
Author:  anilv [ Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Augmenter Bonus Calculation
Visorak wrote:
Why do all mathematicians speak a foreign language? :P


Because standard English is insufficient to convey our mathematics!
Author:  shawn_mccall [ Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Augmenter Bonus Calculation
I PMed enkelin once and inquired about this thread he walked me through it and eventually I semi-understood it, but damn that man has patience. I felt like he would pop up any moment and mercy kill me for my retardation, but he just kept tolerating my ignorance.

enkelin for emp, anyone?
Author:  kanescreed [ Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Augmenter Bonus Calculation
shawn_mccall wrote:
I PMed enkelin once and inquired about this thread he walked me through it and eventually I semi-understood it, but damn that man has patience. I felt like he would pop up any moment and mercy kill me for my retardation, but he just kept tolerating my ignorance.

enkelin for emp, anyone?

oh dont even start on that. Im surprised he just hasn't gone" kane.. there is no hope for you".
Author:  lordjeroen [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Augmenter Bonus Calculation
kanescreed wrote:
shawn_mccall wrote:
I PMed enkelin once and inquired about this thread he walked me through it and eventually I semi-understood it, but damn that man has patience. I felt like he would pop up any moment and mercy kill me for my retardation, but he just kept tolerating my ignorance.

enkelin for emp, anyone?

oh dont even start on that. Im surprised he just hasn't gone" kane.. there is no hope for you".

in everyone can hope been found, for some its far far away (you gave a good example for that) and others are full of hope
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