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Aki Ross
Team: Rank: Director Main: Aki Ross Level: 34 Joined: Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:02 pm Posts: 14
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Ballance issue in the nexus.
- it has come upon me to notice. that the mission's involving Exploring the "Urqa" A.i. Has become nearly impossible for the player at the nexus level of say 10 - 30 to do. even with proper surgical and heat resist gear. i my self have tried. heat shield's and surgical weapons .. u cant even witha full bank and tweaks.. The ai simply need nerfing..
will provide screenshots n such in a moment.
yes i know my setup may have sucked but what is expected of a new player ? a great setup when there just getting used to the game ? im experienced and i cant even manage a low tech setup.
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Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:34 am |
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kingwayne30
Team: Rank: Main: Cpt Mawson Level: 1011 Joined: Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:46 am Posts: 118 Location: NW UK.
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Re: Ballance issue in the nexus.
Heat weapons. They die instantly.
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Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:16 am |
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Speedbolt
Team: Rank: Director Main: Freddy Level: 328 Joined: Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:34 pm Posts: 135
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Re: Ballance issue in the nexus.
kingwayne30 wrote: Heat weapons. They die instantly. First heat weapon a regular noob MIGHT find:Zobitans beam. They would find it after killing zobitan if they even see him. Second heat weapon! Completely left nexus, in lavanite, fire cannon. So, no. No normal noobs can do this, I agree on balancing nexus.
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Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:40 am |
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Xonok2
Team: Rank: Councilor Main: Xonok6 Level: 602 Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:31 am Posts: 861
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Re: Ballance issue in the nexus.
I think those UrQa should be fairly weak to energy, as it's almost all that people use at that level.
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Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:40 am |
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franke456
Team: Rank: Operator Main: franke456 Level: 4654 Joined: Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:21 am Posts: 117
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Re: Ballance issue in the nexus.
Try using better augs as well Hestias would give bank but your left on your regen being soly up to your gear
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Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:46 am |
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Aurora Ex Machina
Joined: Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:43 pm Posts: 1352
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Re: Ballance issue in the nexus.
This post would be fantastic if: a) It wasn't a meta-cry for attention by a single person: although you've deleted it, if I catch people bumping topics using two separate accounts, I'll forward it onto Bageese. b) It was any way factual: Code: Ujqii 0.00 0.00 1.30 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.60 Jujo'qii 0.00 0.00 1.30 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
That's right ~ neither ship has any resists barring mining, and even has a 30% weakness to heat. So, let's check their gear ~ Code: <SHIP name="Lvl15 UrQa Scout"> <HULL>Ujqii</HULL> <ITEM>Amest Radar</ITEM> <ITEM>Faranji Energy 2</ITEM> <!-- energy --> <ITEM>Bule Pusher</ITEM> <ITEM>Urqa'Qii</ITEM> <!-- missilelauncher --> <ITEM>Guardian</ITEM> <ITEM>Self Destructor</ITEM> <ITEM>Shield Salve</ITEM> </SHIP>
<!-- level 16 --> <SHIP name="Lvl16 UrQa Scout"> <HULL>Ujqii</HULL> <ITEM>Amest Radar</ITEM> <ITEM>Faranji Energy 2</ITEM> <!-- energy --> <ITEM>Bule Pusher</ITEM> <ITEM>Urqa'Qii</ITEM> <!-- missilelauncher --> <ITEM>Photon Barricade</ITEM> <ITEM>Self Destructor</ITEM> <ITEM>Shield Salve</ITEM> </SHIP>
<SHIP name="Lvl16 UrQa Warrior"> <HULL>Jujo'qii</HULL> <ITEM>Amest Radar+</ITEM> <ITEM>Faranji Energy 3</ITEM> <!-- energy --> <ITEM>Bule Puller</ITEM> <ITEM>Urqa'Qii</ITEM> <!-- missilelauncher --> <ITEM>Urqa'Qii</ITEM> <!-- missilelauncher --> <ITEM>Ethereal Prototype</ITEM> <ITEM>Ethereal Prototype</ITEM> <ITEM>Faulty Wiring</ITEM> <ITEM>Jiji KoQuii</ITEM> <ITEM>Photon Barricade</ITEM> <ITEM>Self Destructor</ITEM> <ITEM>Shield Salve</ITEM> <ITEM>Jujo'qii Augmenter</ITEM> </SHIP>
Guardian: T1 shield, 1,400 bank Photon Barricade: T2 shield, 2,450 bank Now: the Ujqii hull is tech 3, with 2 aug slots, which compared to the Paximinimus [tech 3, 3 aug slots, huge resists and a super-item that spams a +regen tweak] is a walk in the park. The Jujo'qii is tech 5, with 4 aug slots, so is actually quite powerful for the zone ~ however, it isn't a mission requirement to kill it, and it is the "boss AI" of the hardest zone in the nexus. /thread
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Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:23 am |
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playerboy345
Team: Rank: Main: playerboy345 Level: 3084 Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:25 am Posts: 4062 Location: The Netherlands
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Re: Ballance issue in the nexus.
Paximinus has 2 aug slots.
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Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:50 am |
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Max235
Team: Rank: Officer Main: Maxathron Level: 4065 Joined: Sat Jan 21, 2006 11:16 am Posts: 5804
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Re: Ballance issue in the nexus.
When I was doing nexus stuff during beta, I found it extremely hard to dent the scouts long enough to kill one in less than 5 minutes of shooting, flying, and dodging.
My weapon systems just were not strong enough, and my energy, not even close (nexus energies) to keeping the weapon going with the constant hits to shield if I didn't dodge fast enough.
So I had to resort to using the wingship's super item instead of an actual weapon.
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Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:19 am |
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Imra15
Team: Rank: Operator Main: Lol imra15 Level: 668 Joined: Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:30 pm Posts: 1389 Location: Unexplainable regions of space
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Re: Ballance issue in the nexus.
Max235 wrote: When I was doing nexus stuff during beta, I found it extremely hard to dent the scouts long enough to kill one in less than 5 minutes of shooting, flying, and dodging.
My weapon systems just were not strong enough, and my energy, not even close (nexus energies) to keeping the weapon going with the constant hits to shield if I didn't dodge fast enough.
So I had to resort to using the wingship's super item instead of an actual weapon. Wingship Magcannon device all the way!
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Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:27 am |
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Xonok2
Team: Rank: Councilor Main: Xonok6 Level: 602 Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:31 am Posts: 861
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Re: Ballance issue in the nexus.
Perhaps it's the fires? The first ship that i could use to survive there for even some time was a paximinus. It had OS pink envelope and hestia aug, which mean't 4.5k(or was it 6k?) bank and high reg. I also had 2 helga slaves with me. Now once slaves weren't allowed there i found it impossible to survive there with this alt. So there's definitely something.
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Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:49 am |
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treygrey1
Team: Rank: Main: Xenodread Level: 2605 Joined: Mon Sep 29, 2008 2:43 pm Posts: 413 Location: Ponyville
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Re: Ballance issue in the nexus.
Why are slaves not allowed there anyway?
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Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:07 pm |
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Max235
Team: Rank: Officer Main: Maxathron Level: 4065 Joined: Sat Jan 21, 2006 11:16 am Posts: 5804
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Re: Ballance issue in the nexus.
Because there are bottomless AI bases that constantly buy material for a nearly never changing price for new players to do a bit of mining before leaving Nexus. Someone had the bright idea to chuck 3 accounts worth of MFM slaves through nexus to sell to all the bases. Not f2ps. P2ps. Leviathan and Selen slaves were cruising into those bases. frankeaero wrote: Try using better augs as well Hestias would give bank but your left on your regen being soly up to your gear Augmenters have EXTREMELY low chance of dropping in the nexus. I mean, I managed to obtain 5 Minor Condensors before I even got a minor aug while rumbling through for the stupid translator droid.
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Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:03 pm |
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Visorak
Team: Rank: Main: Radia Level: 1100 Joined: Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:04 pm Posts: 6410 Location: q3dm17
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Re: Ballance issue in the nexus.
Max235 wrote: Because there are bottomless AI bases that constantly buy material for a nearly never changing price for new players to do a bit of mining before leaving Nexus.
Someone had the bright idea to chuck 3 accounts worth of MFM slaves through nexus to sell to all the bases.
Not f2ps. P2ps. Leviathan and Selen slaves were cruising into those bases. The better question is if combat slaves can be allowed and not trade slaves.
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Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:30 pm |
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Max235
Team: Rank: Officer Main: Maxathron Level: 4065 Joined: Sat Jan 21, 2006 11:16 am Posts: 5804
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Re: Ballance issue in the nexus.
I thought about this too. But I figure that it has to do with the server unable to tell the difference between combat and trade.
That, and do we really want to see the nexus clogged with 90 swarms?
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Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:32 pm |
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kingwayne30
Team: Rank: Main: Cpt Mawson Level: 1011 Joined: Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:46 am Posts: 118 Location: NW UK.
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Re: Ballance issue in the nexus.
Max235 wrote: That, and do we really want to see the nexus clogged with 90 swarms? yes - But a reply to a balance issue, no there is no balance issue, if a noob like me can do it on my level 20 alt, so should you (Isn't there a mission for the Zobitan Beam?), and i miss Radexing Zobitan.
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Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:39 pm |
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