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Post An Adjustment [Moved]
Just wondering what people think.

Changing Seer Skill (+2% Damage, +1% Ethereal Damage, Increased Warp Abilities)

To:

Seer Skill (3-5% Damage, +1% Ethereal Damage, Recoil +1-3% (Depending On Damage Increase)

So NOT a beef, just little readjustment

Reason:

[Simplified] Seer looses alot of potential DPS due to the nature of the class.

[Elaboration] Seers don't normally shoot back to back, since strategy/placement stalls time. Such as, getting behind a target, circling, running, ect ect ect

[End Product] More damage and less recoil allows harder hits, because I personally believe this is a small flaw.

[Note] Not wining, ranting, complaining, I just wanna know what you think

So in the end, it would be a beef, but not for the reason you would think.

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Post Re: An Adjustment [Moved]
No. I like my OS6 and CaP augs.

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Post Re: An Adjustment [Moved]
OS5 is better for seer. For this very reason. Also, I would perefer CaL over CaP for my setup. Just 1 more reason why im considering

2 AoS
1 Conc [Its like a CaL and AoS mixed
1 AoL [Beacuse its damage only]

This is why this topic came to mind.

Might just do
3 Aos, 1 A+ or
3 AoS 1 CaL or
3 AoS 1 AoL

So much math to do....

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Post Re: An Adjustment [Moved]
If you use an AoL in a setup, I will personally KoS you. :)

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Post Re: An Adjustment [Moved]
Well if you were to read the topic, you would somewhat grasp why I would vaguely consider equipping such a shitty aug. I prolly wont.

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Post Re: An Adjustment [Moved]
Why would you use AoL over Athena+?

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Post Re: An Adjustment [Moved]
Shield, Damage, Rof .....Athena+ is mostly for Seer vs Seer, the radar % from AoS is plenty.

I will make lots of setups

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Seer Vs Everything

Panther
3 AoS
1 A+

v2 Panther [Beacuse I cba to change out weps]

3 AoS
1 A+

Seer vs Seer [Specialty]
Death Striker
3 AoS
1 Athena+

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Post Re: An Adjustment [Moved]
Just looked at Athena+ stats....I completely forgot how much damage it added. at this point FUCK AoL! This changes alot ;)

Back on topic

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Post Re: An Adjustment [Moved]
Just because YOU don't see trying to minimize poor ROF is a good thing, does not mean it isn't.

I mean, if you have 4 good chances to inflict heavy damage, you're going to take them. But if you have such a poor ROF that you can only get one shot in, it won't matter how much more damage you do. Unless theres a full +100% damage from skills, that -60% ROF fucks up setups.\


The great thing about seer is the ability to react to different situations. How do you react if you can't get enough shots in? And you'll fuck with seer buffs. What little seers that GO on runs now will be reduced back to only SP seers.


For anyone who is going to argue on Basta's side, You're going to fire at every 8 seconds or so. A V2 will take 18.

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Post Re: An Adjustment [Moved]
Bastamental wrote:
Shield, Damage, Rof .....Athena+ is mostly for Seer vs Seer, the radar % from AoS is plenty.

I will make lots of setups

EDITED ALL OF THIS

Seer Vs Everything

Panther
3 AoS
1 A+


v2 Panther [Beacuse I cba to change out weps]

3 AoS
1 A+

Seer vs Seer [Specialty]
Death Striker
3 AoS
1 Athena+



Allow me, if you will, to explain the problem with your setups. AoS is not an aug you should use 3 of(especially vs. other seers). Here's why; 2 AoS maxes the main bonus gleaned from an AoS which is C.H. Percentage, once you max that, being as you're seer, the next most important things are C.H. Strength, Visibility, and Radar. The Seer Mastery is the best option at this point, or if you want to PvP you can go Conclusion to sacrifice more traditional stats to increase your survivability, while still picking up on C.H.S., but to stack 3 AoS is almost a waste of an Aug slot since you are dropping an entire Aug into a +10% damage bonus(since you are no longer making much use of the +C.H.P. And the Seer Mast matches the AoS on C.H.S.).

TL:DR; Don't stack 3 AoS.

If you're PvAIing Conclusion is better as opposed to AoS number 3(yay, survivability and -elec temp!).

If you are fighting other seers the -Vis and +Radar bonuses(you know the single most important seer vs. seer stats?) are much greater.

If you're doing general seer vs. non-seer PvP the Conclusion is golden. Since, for a marginal C.H.S. loss you get added survivability(shields) and the ability to use more elec intensive weapons and regular weapons more liberally, along with a significant tracking bonus that mkes V2s much more viable with the already greatly increased speed(which will be even greater nd more accurate dur to the large bonuses to tracking you'll pull off the aug).

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