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Neba
Main: ThisIsKalrizian Level: 0
Joined: Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:15 pm Posts: 1662 Location: Sumner Washington
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Re: Hot Glue Gun
are you talking about hot glue or sprayer? because yes a seer can take out a hot glue gun but sprayer all they have to do is drop a fuel, target it behind you, and you cannot do it.
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Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:13 am |
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Battlecruiser23
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Team: Rank: Councilor Main: Churchill Level: 5620 Joined: Sat Dec 09, 2006 10:36 pm Posts: 11706
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Re: Hot Glue Gun
If the sniper sees the seer before the seer strikes first....
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Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:20 am |
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Neba
Main: ThisIsKalrizian Level: 0
Joined: Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:15 pm Posts: 1662 Location: Sumner Washington
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Re: Hot Glue Gun
Battlecruiser23 wrote: If the sniper sees the seer before the seer strikes first.... derka derka derka I have more experience in the matter then you do derka derka
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Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:23 am |
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Battlecruiser23
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Re: Hot Glue Gun
And I have yet to find a sniper that didn't completely outclass me actually see me before I could make the first blow.
Using a DS to fight a Prawn or Wave is not a fair fight.
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Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:25 am |
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ping101
Main: Bad at Games Level: 4250
Joined: Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:48 pm Posts: 269 Location: Behind you
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Re: Hot Glue Gun
Battlecruiser23 wrote: And I have yet to find a sniper that didn't completely outclass me actually see me before I could make the first blow.
Using a DS to fight a Prawn or Wave is not a fair fight. Please name the Prawn and Wave snipers you are reffering to.
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Thu Oct 06, 2011 4:26 am |
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Battlecruiser23
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Re: Hot Glue Gun
When I mentioned not a fair fight, I mean the DS will get owned by the Prawn and Wave. Very much owned.
But, if you insist on names.
NBBA/Doman as the Prawns. Dr Acula/<insert other SBP Waves/Wave+ here> as the Waves.
If those are killable targets for a noob DS, like someone of Bastamental's quality, I owe you a bil.
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Thu Oct 06, 2011 4:41 am |
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ping101
Main: Bad at Games Level: 4250
Joined: Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:48 pm Posts: 269 Location: Behind you
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Re: Hot Glue Gun
Battlecruiser23 wrote: When I mentioned not a fair fight, I mean the DS will get owned by the Prawn and Wave. Very much owned.
But, if you insist on names.
NBBA/Doman as the Prawns. Dr Acula/<insert other SBP Waves/Wave+ here> as the Waves.
If those are killable targets for a noob DS, like someone of Bastamental's quality, I owe you a bil. Well thats interesting because NBBA doesnt have a prawn sniper, never did. Then again if you are being honest, I need to quit this game because obviously im missing something. Doman is the best sniper at this point in time.
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Thu Oct 06, 2011 5:02 am |
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Asmodeaan
Main: Beelz Level: 1
Joined: Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:57 pm Posts: 1544
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Re: Hot Glue Gun
I'm talking about the sprayer Neba. I can show you just how terrible the tracking is if you wish. even with a markswoman i find the tracking barely acceptable.
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Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:45 am |
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goett
Team: Rank: Main: goett Level: 2156 Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2009 1:36 pm Posts: 1832
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Re: Hot Glue Gun
Asmodeaan wrote: I'm talking about the sprayer Neba. I can show you just how terrible the tracking is if you wish. even with a markswoman i find the tracking barely acceptable. hmm, there goes that experiment.
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Thu Oct 06, 2011 12:17 pm |
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thijs12b
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Team: Rank: Officer Main: Aku'Qa Level: 4290 Joined: Sun Nov 07, 2010 8:08 am Posts: 1526
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Re: Hot Glue Gun
basebot wrote: ELITE wrote: I dunno, HGG seems to be the counter to seers in here. At least the low bank ones who don't one shot the poor sniper 1shotting a 70% resist 130k banked ship, hmm. I'm not gonna whine about sniper, but that in combo with the HF only huge damage weapon is crossing the line imho.
The thing is, though, if you unlock it from HF only, SDs will be able to use 'em too, and then we're fucked.They don't stack. You're argument is invalid.
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Thu Oct 06, 2011 12:34 pm |
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TheKC
Main: KC trades Level: 5
Joined: Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:44 am Posts: 773
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Re: Hot Glue Gun
thijs12b wrote: basebot wrote: ELITE wrote: I dunno, HGG seems to be the counter to seers in here. At least the low bank ones who don't one shot the poor sniper 1shotting a 70% resist 130k banked ship, hmm. I'm not gonna whine about sniper, but that in combo with the HF only huge damage weapon is crossing the line imho.
The thing is, though, if you unlock it from HF only, SDs will be able to use 'em too, and then we're fucked.They don't stack. You're argument is invalid. One shot does not do 130k dmg at a 70% resi ship, not even close, not even when including the parasite and direkt dmg, with no setup in the world, not even at 100% analysis, not even close.
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Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:24 pm |
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Battlecruiser23
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Team: Rank: Councilor Main: Churchill Level: 5620 Joined: Sat Dec 09, 2006 10:36 pm Posts: 11706
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Re: Hot Glue Gun
ping101 wrote: Then again if you are being honest, I need to quit this game because obviously im missing something. Doman is the best sniper at this point in time. Someone of a newb seer's skills and experience: 1. He does not have a Panther, AWC(+), or Hermes ship. Even doesn't even use a DS+, either. 2. He does not own a PWI, nor is intending to get one. 3. He uses the seer warper to get behind someone in pvp, even though the person can see the warp graphic, turn around, and kill him. 4. He stands his ground when Spotted, rather than OBA/Warp away. 5. He has poor ability to think outside of Athena+/Conclusion, 3 Mastery. The best he said of that was a completely different setup to them was, Conclusion, AoS, 2 Mastery.
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Thu Oct 06, 2011 5:49 pm |
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Dark
Main: -atiii- Level: 2708
Joined: Sun Feb 06, 2011 3:34 pm Posts: 48 Location: Budapest, Hungary
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Re: Hot Glue Gun
HGG parasites dont stack, so nerfing the damage on it will make the item less valuable. so not signed.
PS: 3shot fire parasites do way more DPS, you want to neft that too?
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Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:18 pm |
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Neba
Main: ThisIsKalrizian Level: 0
Joined: Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:15 pm Posts: 1662 Location: Sumner Washington
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Re: Hot Glue Gun
Dark wrote: HGG parasites dont stack, so nerfing the damage on it will make the item less valuable. so not signed.
PS: 3shot fire parasites do way more DPS, you want to neft that too?
1 parasite from HG gun can do 14k+ damage I have been shot with a 3 shot multiple times.
any sustained stacking parasitic attack should do more dps
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Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:57 pm |
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TheKC
Main: KC trades Level: 5
Joined: Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:44 am Posts: 773
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Re: Hot Glue Gun
8 shots of a 3 shot equal the parasite dmg of 1 shot out of a HGG, + what most forget. 3shot parasites add way more vis too
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Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:20 pm |
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