Well, I enjoy seeing ideas like these, tho some might need tweaking.

But Seer and Gunner are definitely the two main classes that needs revamp and rework now, and then hopefully we can start working on high end Fleet Commanders and add more fighters and aura generators for those.

Let's first get an Admin response to clarify what they wish for Seer to be like in the future. Much like what Jeff did with Sniper class.

I never said that Seer needs rework before Gunner. Stop putting words in my mouth.

And I don't see why Shield Monkey needs anything. They have proper shields/overloaders/transference weapons/energies that are T21, which is their main gear. Just mentioning, Surging Poseidon Hippios Shield Transference, Poseidon Hippios Shield Transference, Jury Rigging of Hephaestus, Voluminous Jupiter Olympios Shield, Undead Narwhal Energy, Heavy Bloodstained Mars Energy, just to mention a few T21 upgrades to your average T20 Shield Monkey gear.

Fleet Commanders have no T21 aura, no T21 fighters, and no Remote Control 21 to go with RadEx 21, which means their most powerful RadEx ship is still a level 900 Big Green.

Time Warp, generic gear or not, those mentioned items fulfills the class role of a Shield Monkey, and it represents gear that is the top end of what a Shield Monkey could wish for, even tho it is not locked to Shield Monkey only. Even tho an item is not locked to a class does not mean it doesn't count in when comparing classes and gear to other classes.

I can't see how you can even argue that Shield Monkeys needs gear before a Fleet Commander.



For your comments about Hermes gear, then I can promise you that Hermes gear is amazing for Seers. There is a lot to gain there, and I believe mines can be a really powerful asset for Seers in the future if it is tweaked correctly. They are already really promising the way they are. So gear wise, Seer looks pretty decent. They could do with some more weaponry, but I am more worried about the core of the class not being able to compete with the cores of other classes in terms of usefulness.

For the part about Fleet Commanders and Gunners, then yes, Red Photon ships are amazing. But Gunner needs its entire class revamped, and Fleet Commanders needs more content added for T21, as they pretty much have none (Which is why Jey chose a Prawn over a Zeus Throne: it was the only ship with a T21 aura). I am sure he can also agree to Fleet Commanders needing an expansion to their gear in form of T21 fighters and T21 auras.

I didn't read all this thread, but I know for a fact that if this is in/put in, it will do a lot to help in Seers' life in general.

Also a little idea I just had...
Item-Halves[or other] the time you are visible after firing/Halves[or other] the visibility after firing. Locked to class.
Would need to be attained at the end of a LONG chain, tbd.

I wouldn't say Caduceus or Fire Starter looks particularly good for Seer. I haven't personally seen other weapons in the Hermes zone, though.

What about that seer parasite weapon of Dark Kobold? Is it any good?

Good does not even begin to describe it, but I highly doubt that it's player obtainable.

Well, me and Lz got bp once but neither of us has seer and no1 on team gave shit bout it so its rusting in Lz's storage. I can't recall it's name tho

He has four or five different parasite weapons. They are all broken. The BP you got might be for a nerfed player version.