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Author:  Max235 [ Sat Aug 10, 2013 9:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Content Fixes/Unbalance/Minor Tweaks

slumber wrote:
Also, Suqqa Uj'qii fighters have terrible ROF even with full energy bank, they redefine what it means to suck.


They actually have good rate of fire. They seem to use a really weak energy, though. I tested them when the smooth elect drain was originally introduced, and they got off two shots before running dry, relenting to a pitiful one shot every 3 seconds until the enemy was dead.

Author:  Xonok2 [ Sun Aug 11, 2013 12:50 pm ]
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I recently launched 4 Uj'Qii fighters at a maggot. They failed to kill it.
Then I sent 1 paxian pacifier, it oneshotted the maggot.
I thought they're supposed to be at least remotely similar in power?
The Uj'Qii fighters are weaker than chihuahuas atm(for whatever reason).

Author:  Max235 [ Sun Aug 11, 2013 1:48 pm ]
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Paxian Pacifier is a tier2 fighter.
UrQa Ujqii is a tier1 fighter.

Control Group: St. Bernard.
St. Bernard is a tier2 fighter.

Though, the Juju-fighter (tier2) is pretty bad itself, and the tier3 is weird.

Author:  shaqq [ Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:09 pm ]
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Max235 wrote:
They actually have good rate of fire. They seem to use a really weak energy, though. I tested them when the smooth elect drain was originally introduced, and they got off two shots before running dry, relenting to a pitiful one shot every 3 seconds until the enemy was dead.


I just launched 10 of them at one of those ~lvl 90 trader AIs, and then clicked on one to see its shield & energybank in that targeting window on the top right.

Their energy bank did not go down at all. Either the fighters themselves are bugged in some way or the graphics shown do no update correctly. Best part is they didnt even get that trader AI to half health.

Paxian Negotiators, another T1 fighter, would've made quick work of it.

Author:  Max235 [ Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:46 pm ]
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shaqq wrote:
Max235 wrote:
They actually have good rate of fire. They seem to use a really weak energy, though. I tested them when the smooth elect drain was originally introduced, and they got off two shots before running dry, relenting to a pitiful one shot every 3 seconds until the enemy was dead.


I just launched 10 of them at one of those ~lvl 90 trader AIs, and then clicked on one to see its shield & energybank in that targeting window on the top right.

Their energy bank did not go down at all. Either the fighters themselves are bugged in some way or the graphics shown do no update correctly. Best part is they didnt even get that trader AI to half health.

Paxian Negotiators, another T1 fighter, would've made quick work of it.


Hmm, must've gotten the beta version of the fighter or something. When I tested them...on some teammates while we were doing bana (you can guess what happened to the fighters), they HAD a high amount of RoF (ie, normal weapon RoF) until 2-3 shots later (I assumed they were randomly augged, just like my Pacifiers, Negotiators, and Juju's, as some moved faster than others), then RoF dropped off and I was lucky to get any to fire once per 3 seconds.

My thoughts was they had one pathetic energy, or at the very least a hidden modifier on them or one of the items that reduced energy and elect levels to the point that they would be terrible.

I and my teammates shunned them entirely. We also shunned Juju fighters (after team donated a pair of Urko Qa commods to the cause) when we found they were similarly pathetic. Qokuji fighters were a "meh" usage, and incredibly annoying to obtain extra as they were limited to 5 per bana run and neurobound + FC locked. One of our Gunners accidentally got a set before he realized they were fighters. Peacemakers were worse, because they required a Grim Reaver kill, and since Grim is also a roaming uber...

All in all, all fighters, except:
Dachshund
Border Collie
St. Bernard
Cerberus
Pacifier (iffy)
Negotiator
Lice

Are either meh or big piles of shit.

Author:  slumber [ Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:21 am ]
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I think Cerb fighters need a beef too. Their aura is nice but their DPS doesnt stack up to the 4 slots it takes.

Also, Peacemaker fighters also give a very nice aura but again their DPS is low for 4 slots.

Author:  Blue Dwarf [ Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:18 am ]
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The Salty One wrote:
So changing the base in IQ bana from programming 30 to 100 would require some extra code tweaks?

Yeah, skills have a hardcoded cap for neurotraining in addition to what we set in stations (probably from years ago when skills were randomly distributed, or to stop someone slipping in some secret mission to skill up past the normal max).

Author:  ELITE [ Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:12 am ]
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Dark Doom Shield has an abnormally large weight imo. 2.6m?



Also, the "Get Skill to X" missions should be stacked, not the way they are now where if you train skills multiple times at once, you're actually penalized.


IE: Had Radar 15, and mission to get 16 open. Got Radar 18. Lost the 17 and 18 missions simply because I didn't fly back to Sol in between training skills.

Author:  redalert150 [ Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Content Fixes/Unbalance/Minor Tweaks

Lincins size was changed from 180 to 134, but dark immolation stayed at 238. Fix please.

Author:  Pontius123 [ Sat Sep 21, 2013 9:50 pm ]
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Fire Drone was a drone that originally used an Arcadian Pulse Gun. It was changed to use an Invertoblast+. Neither are "fire damage". Fix.

Author:  Moonlightneo [ Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:07 am ]
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Regardless of hull, slaves will only mine the contents of one asteroid before dropping it off at the determined station, making high tech decent hull mining slaves pointless, fix/tweak this please, my kelvin with 1k+ hull is constantly dropping off ~20 mets/silicon/fermium rather than a mesh of all three. (though it might just be easier to make it so the slaves only keep certain commods and drop the rest or keep current system for whenever they grab decaying commods like fermium)

Author:  Blue Dwarf [ Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Content Fixes/Unbalance/Minor Tweaks

Moonlightneo wrote:
Regardless of hull, slaves will only mine the contents of one asteroid before dropping it off at the determined station, making high tech decent hull mining slaves pointless, fix/tweak this please, my kelvin with 1k+ hull is constantly dropping off ~20 mets/silicon/fermium rather than a mesh of all three. (though it might just be easier to make it so the slaves only keep certain commods and drop the rest or keep current system for whenever they grab decaying commods like fermium)

Code.

Author:  Moonlightneo [ Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Content Fixes/Unbalance/Minor Tweaks

Blue Dwarf wrote:
Moonlightneo wrote:
Regardless of hull, slaves will only mine the contents of one asteroid before dropping it off at the determined station, making high tech decent hull mining slaves pointless, fix/tweak this please, my kelvin with 1k+ hull is constantly dropping off ~20 mets/silicon/fermium rather than a mesh of all three. (though it might just be easier to make it so the slaves only keep certain commods and drop the rest or keep current system for whenever they grab decaying commods like fermium)

Code.

Hard to code? not enough reason to code? too lazy or what? Seems 90% pointless to even make slaves mine, just a waste of slots when you can mine an entire belt yourself and fit it in one ship in around a few minutes whereas slaves act in a really inefficient manner taking hours to do the same when you expect them to mine until they cant fit anymore.
Edit: my bad, thought this counted under minor tweaks or something. shall post elsewhere.

Author:  Blue Dwarf [ Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Content Fixes/Unbalance/Minor Tweaks

This topic is for content (ie: Not code) issues.

Author:  redalert150 [ Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Content Fixes/Unbalance/Minor Tweaks

redalert150 wrote:
Lincins size was changed from 180 to 134, but dark immolation stayed at 238. Fix please.

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