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Rank: Main: Dark Steel Level: 9138 Joined: Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:35 am Posts: 2068 Location: Netherlands |
Pretty sure Jeff hasnt even read the forum for atleast the entirity of this year
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Wed Mar 09, 2016 7:57 am |
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Joined: Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:21 pm Last visited: - Last post: JeffL Post subject: Re: Weekly Dev Notes - 24th June Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:30 am Nice I think he might be dead... Last post was 26th of June 2015. Before that was April and then before that post was Feb... |
Wed Mar 09, 2016 8:09 am |
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Rank: Officer Main: topbuzzz Level: 8015 Joined: Sun Dec 21, 2008 12:31 pm Posts: 4347 |
he's busy preparing for the release of some steam
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Wed Mar 09, 2016 11:31 am |
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Main: enkelin
Level: 5600 Joined: Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:28 pm Posts: 11109 |
Just because a suggestion has been up for a while, that doesn't mean it's worth anything. This one in particular is pretty touchy because you are asking Jeff to potentially reduce his income. It may be true that reducing the cost would disproportionately increase the volume, but you haven't proven that at all.
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Thu Mar 10, 2016 11:14 am |
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Rank: Councilor Main: DreadLordNaf Level: 12667 Joined: Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:33 am Posts: 677 |
I reiterate my previous response to this thread from last year copied below.
In summary it's not about lowering the devs income, its a realization that they leave a TON of money on the table (which hurts us all) through a very poorly monetized f2p/p2p framework. They could add a lot of pay-for-convenience or pay-for-cosmetic features that would bring them new income without unbalancing the game. Though I still stand by my opinion that some of the current players are the main obstacle to doing this, and not the devs themselves. dreadlordnaf wrote: In general I agree in concept that SS could both make players happier and increase their own revenue allowing them to be more successful and invest more in development if they revised their pricing schemes and specially add in "pay for convenience" and/or "pay for cosmetic" (name changes, ship colors, etc) features. But this assumes they have the back end capacity for all this. If they are so overworked and loaded right now that they can only handle X number of name change/aug resets a week, then lowering the price will only lower their revenue, if they are unable to actually process more. But I do think their payment model is outdated. Games like Guild Wars, League of Legends and tons of other MMO's make millions and are funded purely through pay for convenience and/or cosmetic features. These games usually take great care to make sure there is no in-game statistical combat/material advantage from their pay features, so that the game is not pay-to-win and I think SS could achieve a similar balance. I will be voting for your suggestion, but unfortunately I see the biggest hurdle to this the SS players themselves. I suggested something once like this and got a lot of push back. People irrationally see things like pay-for-convenience and even pay-for-cosmetics as pay-to-win since in their mind paying players are getting something they aren't. They cant wrap their heads around basic economics and think everything should be f2p. Also many people will oppose on principle. I recall when the Stront-90 missions were added in a lot of higher level players did not like this. They hated it because while it didnt take anything away from them, it made life a bit easier for p2per to level and in their mind "if they had to suffer and grind, then everyone else should have to also." These players would probably go ballistic if there were a way to pay to make the game more convenient. In their minds it would somehow diminish the suffering and annoyances they have endured over the years. |
Thu Mar 10, 2016 12:47 pm |
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Rank: Soldier Main: Fleet General Level: 3378 Joined: Fri Feb 24, 2006 6:50 am Posts: 341 Location: Straya |
Even if it isn't worth anything, the fifth highest suggestion on the suggestions voting should at least have an admin acknowledgement and even if that's to say no and then remove it from the list.
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Thu Mar 10, 2016 1:17 pm |
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Main: king kone
Level: 37 Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:36 pm Posts: 1068 |
Zeuss wrote: Even if it isn't worth anything, the fifth highest suggestion on the suggestions voting should at least have an admin acknowledgement and even if that's to say no and then remove it from the list. That takes effort. _________________ ->Aces High ->Fortes Fortuna Juvat ->Up with irons |
Thu Mar 10, 2016 1:20 pm |
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Rank: Main: Dark Steel Level: 9138 Joined: Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:35 am Posts: 2068 Location: Netherlands |
Zeuss wrote: Even if it isn't worth anything, the fifth highest suggestion on the suggestions voting should at least have an admin acknowledgement and even if that's to say no and then remove it from the list. I agree. Even if Jeff (or whoever makes the call on what's going to get done) only did 5 suggestions a week and did a yes / no / possibly on them atleast we wouldn't have a list of 200 suggestions where perhaps 50% wont ever even get considered, yet people are still awaiting a status update. _________________ ~DarkSteel / Auxilium Universe Map: http://www.starsonata.com/map/ |
Thu Mar 10, 2016 1:24 pm |
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Rank: Soldier Main: LemonPrime Level: 8087 Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:14 pm Posts: 5747 |
Even if we can't say for sure what would be better income overall, at least opening the topic for discussion with a few admin responses can't hurt.
Jeff seems to be the only one who has control over prices of anything so I guess we just need to wait for him to show up. _________________ Lemon/Meo |
Thu Mar 10, 2016 1:24 pm |
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It was revealed recently that the uk took more tax money after reducing its rate of tax. more people paid it when deemed to be more reasonable.
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Thu Mar 10, 2016 5:26 pm |
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Main: Almighty Pixel
Level: 4 Joined: Tue Sep 29, 2015 10:22 pm Posts: 346 |
I've noticed this is gained a lot of attention will mention this within the next meeting and see what the outcome is.
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