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Author:  Tomzta09 [ Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:18 am ]
Post subject:  Kalthi Wrathful Warrior
The stats of the Kalthi Wrathful Warrior have received my attention recently and I can honestly say I am disgusted. By examining the stats below, we can see that this ship was designed for Berserkers.

Hull Space: 1000
Speed: 90
Augmenters: 3
Weapon Slots: 8
Protection from Laser: 55%
Protection from Energy: 55%
Protection from Heat: 58%
Protection from Physical: 53%
Protection from Radiation: 50%
Protection from Surgical: 48%
Protection from Mining: 57%
Transference vulnerability: 10%
Visibility: 50
Reflectivity: 187%

Heavy Fighter
Improves: Damage +10%, Energy Recharge +30%, Hostility +35%

The hull space is outrageous for a ship with so many weapon slots. Take a look at the Subhatt'ayu: http://wiki2.starsonata.com/index.php/Subhattayu which has 7 weapon slots with 1300 hull, already showing that it would be a better alternative to this. As an extremely high end T22 ship from the most difficult zone in the game, once again we are faced with a ship with unreasonable stats. In fact, despite having the same hull issue and lack of weapon slots, the Armored Warrior would be a much better alternative, boasting even higher resistances and built in stats.

It is my honest opinion that the vast majority of the Kalthi ships need a revamp as right now, there is not much point in upgrading to them.
Author:  Masterful [ Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Kalthi Wrathful Warrior
Yeah, well this is the reason I've had the upgrade in my storage for weeks before I bothered to have it thrown on something. It's just a poorly designed ship in general. Compared to the KAW it's inferior in every way. The only things it has going for it are weapon slots and the hostility bonus. The problems with those are that it doesn't have the hull to use the weapon slots, and a KAW can already maintain aggro of basically anything. At which point the stats of the KAW run over it in every single regard.

It's not really ships, though. Given the effort required to actually obtain a lot of the gear from PP, you'd expect it to be useful. The majority of which, isn't. I believe Vert signaled that there would be new stats for the Wrathful line of ships excluding the Warrior, although this really needs a redesign. Would be good if this became a T22 DPS ship that could rival the Prawn, although I doubt that would happen. There's a lack of T22 DPS augs to get it to that point.
Author:  Antilzah [ Sat Aug 08, 2015 10:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kalthi Wrathful Warrior
Masterful wrote:
There's a lack of T22 DPS augs to get it to that point.

I feel like you haven't seen one of the PPS augs.
Author:  Masterful [ Sat Aug 08, 2015 10:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kalthi Wrathful Warrior
Antilzah wrote:
Masterful wrote:
There's a lack of T22 DPS augs to get it to that point.

I feel like you haven't seen one of the PPS augs.

I have, but you need to be able to do with 3 augs what a prawn can do with 4. And so far the equations come up far, far short.
Author:  SunDog60 [ Sun Aug 09, 2015 4:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Kalthi Wrathful Warrior
Well, the inbuilts will be added in next uni most likely? Maybe the KWW will get a very useful inbuilt.

The Vert wrote:
(link to superitems thread) - Neuro Tweaking does not affect inbuilt tweaks, upgraded versions do not keep the original Warrior inbuilt
Kalthi Warrior - Warrior Efficiency - Does a tweak with electrical tempering
Kalthi Wrathful Warrior - Kalthi Paralysation - Decreases the thrust and speed of nearby enemies
Kalthi Armored Warrior - Kalthi Sanctuary - Does a shield tweak and increases transference vulnerability

Uhh... maybe not then.
Author:  ShawnMcCall [ Sun Aug 09, 2015 5:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Kalthi Wrathful Warrior
SunDog60 wrote:
Well, the inbuilts will be added in next uni most likely? Maybe the KWW will get a very useful inbuilt.

The Vert wrote:
(link to superitems thread) - Neuro Tweaking does not affect inbuilt tweaks, upgraded versions do not keep the original Warrior inbuilt
Kalthi Warrior - Warrior Efficiency - Does a tweak with electrical tempering
Kalthi Wrathful Warrior - Kalthi Paralysation - Decreases the thrust and speed of nearby enemies
Kalthi Armored Warrior - Kalthi Sanctuary - Does a shield tweak and increases transference vulnerability

Uhh... maybe not then.


Lol, but the Warrior and Armored Warrior got something useful at least. :lol:
Author:  The White wizard15 [ Sun Aug 09, 2015 6:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Kalthi Wrathful Warrior
SunDog60 wrote:
Well, the inbuilts will be added in next uni most likely? Maybe the KWW will get a very useful inbuilt.

The Vert wrote:
Kalthi Wrathful Warrior - Kalthi Paralysation - Decreases the thrust and speed of nearby enemies

Uhh... maybe not then.


I must enlighten you that prawn's aura already does that, and it does it better than this one inbuilt, and it will not stack with prawn's aura.
Author:  sabre198 [ Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Kalthi Wrathful Warrior
Whiffy warrior
Author:  redalert150 [ Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kalthi Wrathful Warrior
Bump, 1k hull not enough for all my fancy stuff.
Author:  xcrunner5 [ Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kalthi Wrathful Warrior
redalert150 wrote:
Bump, 1k hull not enough for all my fancy stuff.


900 on normal warrior!
Author:  The Vert [ Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Kalthi Wrathful Warrior
Thank you for the feedback :) There is no requirement that says that weapon slots amount have to grant a certain minimum amount of hull space. This ship isn't meant to have a whole lot of hull space, so it will stay that way with its current stats. There are several ways to increase the hull space on your ship build in game, and so I advice players to make use of those means :)

If you feel the Armored Warrior is a better alternative, then go ahead and use that if it suits your needs :)
Author:  redalert150 [ Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Kalthi Wrathful Warrior
The Vert wrote:
Thank you for the feedback :) There is no requirement that says that weapon slots amount have to grant a certain minimum amount of hull space. This ship isn't meant to have a whole lot of hull space, so it will stay that way with its current stats. There are several ways to increase the hull space on your ship build in game, and so I advice players to make use of those means :)

If you feel the Armored Warrior is a better alternative, then go ahead and use that if it suits your needs :)


Thanks for the response. However, the average player will never get PU 10+ :roll: I'd be happy with some speed decrease for 100 extra hull on the warrior.
Author:  Antilzah [ Fri Sep 11, 2015 7:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Kalthi Wrathful Warrior
I don't remember hull on Armored Warrior but it's not that high either. My zerker has PU5 and I never really had hull issues I couldn't solve even on regular Kalthi Warrior. If you want more hull, feel free to use Subhatt instead.
Author:  Masterful [ Fri Sep 11, 2015 7:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Kalthi Wrathful Warrior
KAW is 1,000 hull. I tend not to have many hull space issues.
Author:  redalert150 [ Fri Sep 11, 2015 8:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Kalthi Wrathful Warrior
Bye bye my HFM+KMW
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