I already know how this is going to go and im sure yall wont like me for it but i think it needs to be said. MC is the biggest reason for balancing issues. Most setups and uber content are made with the idea that you have a shm or drone master what have you with you. Now this would be fine if it actually meant getting others together to help you. Admin look at how likely it is for the playerbase at this moment to get together with just one character each and actually win in one of these end game zones. Ive only been back maybe a month but it is very clear that multi-clienting is the only way to succeed. In these areas, anyway i was hoping we could start a conversation about how we could try to lean players off of MC and make them more involved in the game instead. I know a few may be like major nerf to get rid of it but i think it would improve our experience a lot. Anyway tell me f off whatever just want to know what people think.

Remove MC. Easiest solution. Doesn't interfere with base building. Doesn't require a bazillion different balance changes to make it harder for them.

You cant ban MCing, for one MCing is basically whats keeping this game alive. I wouldnt play this game if i couldnt MC. MCing is to much fun i find myself really bored when only having to control 1-2 characters. You actually have to try really hard when youre mcing 6-9 characters at the same time. Constantly switching clients to hit tweaks and super items, or switch back to zerk to maintain aggro, position characters in better spots so they dont die. Its honestly a rush, not in zone like boring oly or PPS but in subspace where you actually have to move around and do stuff for most of the fights.

Now you claim that MCing is the only way to progress and that is absolutely not true. Sure its a lot easier to progress as a player with multiple accounts since you can do whatever you want when you want, but i know several players that own one single account and are end game players capable of doing anything in game and are always setting up runs with other people. My advice to you would be to get on a bigger active team or find someone who is active around the time youre on to do stuff with. When i came back to the game and only had one account i was lucky enough to find a couple people who were willing to do runs with me and help me progress. Now i understand this can be hard since SS can be pretty quite sometimes so i do agree that there needs to be a way for a player to progress solo. Getting rid of MC is not the way to do it though.

Personally i think a zone just like the crucible, that only lets you enter with one character should be put in the game. This zone will basically be a zone from lvl 0 to end game. It progressively gets harder and you get actual end game rewards to help you progress. MCers cant camp that gives everyone a equal chance and no more of these MC hate topics.

Honestly if SS advertised it self as a MCing game i think a lot more people would be interested in playing it (besides the whole $10/month thing). Im pretty sure the majority of players that MC will tell you that MCing is way more fun then running a single client, or maybe im crazy.

I know a number of games that only allow one login from one IP at a given time. Might be unfair to room mates who are using the same router, but i double that is a major issue. Simple have the server check all logins against the existing IP lists, and force logout any IP matching the login.

i think the idea was to get rid of MC when n > x thousand players

One of the big things I hate about heists in GTA Online is that I absolutely have to rely on other players, and I have to rely on them to not fuck it up. MCing can both be useful in eliminating the bullshit of dealing with other people IF you don't want to - but for the price of having to gear another account yourself.

On top of that, MCing can be fun, but content should not be balanced around it at all. The only reasons someone would be MCing is 1) for the fun of it or 2) not wanting to deal with other people when doing bosses that are designed for a squad.

Olympus and T22 daily missions are a step in the no-MC-needed direction. Things like the Crucible also help.

If content requires you to MC, that's what the problem is, not MCing itself.

Me myself, if there was a way to get Oly items, or Subspace items from doing stuff like The Crucible, I would like ... never MC. But that ain't the case and probably will never be the case. This game doesn't have enough people to support this kind of philosophy. The problem lays in that you need a squad for everything, and since there are more people that fuck stuff up then help, you'd rather just do it by yourself MC'ing.

"open world territory" seeing from inside of RE, the ones with alot of accounts cba to sub them, for reasons that have been made clear before. Idk about other teams, but I know that Lemon is on a temporal (or permanent, I don't know) leave. Me, I'm only subbing my accounts whenever there is a war going on, I don't own any galaxies, I think am holding some StM kits for Fruits and that's about it.

The obvious fix would be to add a solo path, that makes use of zones like "The Crucible". The good items from Subspace and Olympus are from bosses that needs a squad to kill it, so if you have to make a squad, and get lucky to get it dropped and then lucky to get the roll on it, ... I don't know but I would rather MC than have to do that shit. You have to be lucky twice to get a decent item, with having no alternative ways to get it; seems reasonable.

Ummm... multicliented play has been completely viable since at least mid 2006 when I first played. We didn't have explosions, so you didn't need a brake, and opening the chat bar with enter would lock inputs like firing. If anything multi client play is actually less viable now due to how common tractors have become and explosions.

Also, no collision code so you could hit your targets much easier.

I have to agree with Shawn. I saw MCing for the first time in 2008 but we've always had mechanics to support it.