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| Author: | Badgerlost [ Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Hive |
Make the Hive the T21 Battle Sphere with 4 aug slots? Would make new content also |
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| Author: | ShawnMcCall [ Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hive |
#NewPrawn |
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| Author: | Badgerlost [ Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hive |
ShawnMcCall wrote: #NewPrawn Hardly the new prawn when sniper wont get any of the Heavy Fighter bonus, plus all Caps ships are weak to mining basically get 1 shot, Hive would be Heat. Think outside the box Shawn |
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| Author: | ShawnMcCall [ Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hive |
Badgerlost wrote: ShawnMcCall wrote: #NewPrawn Hardly the new prawn when sniper wont get any of the Heavy Fighter bonus, plus all Caps ships are weak to mining basically get 1 shot, Hive would be Heat. Think outside the box Shawn You're ignoring the fact that moving to a Hive loses them only one Damage bonus, and it's the smallest one they get. It's the +1% damage from heavy fighters. 4 aug DPS setups allow for massive sustainability, on top of a huge overall DPS increase from a 3 aug setup. So yeah, I'm already thinking outside the box, and the idea is overpowered. The Battlesphere itself is unbalanced as fuck, and the only thing holding it back is t21 augs. This idea would be a very direct implementation of a 1:1 replacement of the prawn. Especially considering things like mobility are easily countered by tractors with combat slaves, as well as PWIs and Sing Brakes. |
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| Author: | Antilzah [ Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hive |
I hope they don't add any ships similar to Battle Thatch and Battle Sphere. They have the highest raw power of any ships ingame. They make rebalancing content hard. But biggest problem about them is how annoying they are to use as a player experience. |
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| Author: | Sypom3 [ Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hive |
I think battlespheres are awesome, people used them all the time to break trough content. |
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| Author: | Pontius123 [ Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hive |
Back in the T21 era, Leonard McCoy brought a Battle Sphere sniper to Olympus and outdps'd all the then endgame T21 snipers. His two Battle Thatch sniper slaves were also able to match his own total DPS output. The reasons why Battle Thatch/Battle Sphere type ships are overpowered are: ->Mobility is not critical to the game (See Hephaestus Machine, EFDNs, and Sniper class for more information) ->Particle/Singularity/Quantum Brakes exist. ->Besides a few Seers, nothing can instantly burst you down that you can't instantly revenge kill. You get 5 augmenters for basically free, plus insane hull. A MF5 Zerk setup with the biggest weapons you'd think about using as a Zerk ends up with 20k *extra* hull space once the setup is complete. Every weapon is Dynamic/Forceful, there are no Mini/Trans mods, your shield/energy/etc are 1k+ size, and there are no hull augs. And you still get 20k extra space on a Battle Sphere. |
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