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Move All Module Initial Materials To Periodic Materials
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Author:  ShawnMcCall [ Thu Dec 15, 2016 4:10 am ]
Post subject:  Move All Module Initial Materials To Periodic Materials
Masterful already suggested this somewhere, but I am having trouble finding it. So, yeah do this. It will allow us to queue module builds, and I will be less salty overall because of it.
Author:  Antilzah [ Thu Dec 15, 2016 4:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Move All Module Initial Materials To Periodic Materials
Hey that's a really good idea.
Author:  potato2 [ Thu Dec 15, 2016 2:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Move All Module Initial Materials To Periodic Materials
I seriously disagree with this, as somone who regularly bulk builds modules, it would be more of a hinderance than a help. Oh and think of the following,

Started too many at once without realising- can't correct this and may not have the materials to finish them

Starting too many by mistake with an initial credit or any material cost- Cancelling essentially makes you lose any initial materials

By needing everything initially you're really cutting down on the player error by requiring them to gather materials first than not realise they needed something later.

If this is ever considered make it optional


Instead of this i'd much rather see work done for more control over worker allocation per build
Author:  Sypom3 [ Thu Dec 15, 2016 3:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Move All Module Initial Materials To Periodic Materials
I don't think this is necessary at all
Author:  ShawnMcCall [ Thu Dec 15, 2016 8:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Move All Module Initial Materials To Periodic Materials
potato2 wrote:
I seriously disagree with this, as somone who regularly bulk builds modules, it would be more of a hinderance than a help. Oh and think of the following,

Started too many at once without realising- can't correct this and may not have the materials to finish them

Starting too many by mistake with an initial credit or any material cost- Cancelling essentially makes you lose any initial materials

By needing everything initially you're really cutting down on the player error by requiring them to gather materials first than not realise they needed something later.

If this is ever considered make it optional


Instead of this i'd much rather see work done for more control over worker allocation per build


You do realize that you wouldn't have to use it right? If everything is periodic is *allows* you to start builds ahead of time. Only you can decide to start the next build without the first one completing... I feel like you didn't think about this at all.
Author:  Masterful [ Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Move All Module Initial Materials To Periodic Materials
What he's saying is that you might make some titanium modules, and then start a MB of Laconia ones and not realise you're 1 titanium module short until it's about to finish.

It's a shame that it doesn't tell you when you type in the MB amount exactly how much of everything it's going to take.
Author:  ShawnMcCall [ Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Move All Module Initial Materials To Periodic Materials
Masterful wrote:
What he's saying is that you might make some titanium modules, and then start a MB of Laconia ones and not realise you're 1 titanium module short until it's about to finish.

It's a shame that it doesn't tell you when you type in the MB amount exactly how much of everything it's going to take.


That's simple math though. If someone can't divide by 2, then they probably deserve to have that problem.
Author:  Pontius123 [ Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Move All Module Initial Materials To Periodic Materials
Apparently you failed it because it's multiply by 2.
Author:  Masterful [ Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Move All Module Initial Materials To Periodic Materials
Then need to do mass build calculations.
Author:  ShawnMcCall [ Sun Dec 18, 2016 6:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Move All Module Initial Materials To Periodic Materials
Pontius123 wrote:
Apparently you failed it because it's multiply by 2.


Actually no, you can go either way depending on what you're doing. If you want x amount of modules at the end, you multiply. If you're converting your augs to as many Modules as possible it's division...
Author:  Pixel [ Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Move All Module Initial Materials To Periodic Materials
This is a mixed opinion, things like prom I would understand or rapid decay commodities but modules themselves doesn't pose a issue to have either initial or periodic.

Positives:
    You can start a build without any requirements of modules.
    Event chat will warn you when you need a certain module.
    Some players less salty?

Negatives:
    Could accidentally start a build.
    Existing builds where the creator wanted some modules to be discounted will be redone to be either better or worse.
    Lots of developer time required, by going through each blueprint to ensure every blueprint follow this new standard.
    Another rule for developers to follow during creation of a blueprint.
    Once the build is started and is 1 use, no way to find out what else is required until the event chat says so.
    Some players more salty?
Author:  iwnh01 [ Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Move All Module Initial Materials To Periodic Materials
Wouldn't it be nice if we had a build system that showed you all the dependant items & costs for that build, asked if you would like to proceed if you had all the BPs / factories and then either used the available or built all / only the dependant items, or failed and said "you need BP / factory X" if you were missing a BP / factory?
Author:  Danger [ Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Move All Module Initial Materials To Periodic Materials
As i Recall, these Module bps require a aug commodity AND a Module initial. If the modules were put to periodically, then the only way you could mess up is if you miscounted the amount of aug commodities you made. One could start all modules at once and let them build.
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