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Author:  Badgerlost [ Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Leaderboard Wealth
I think it would be really cool to see who the richest teams are and people in game.

For teams it will count what the teams have in team funds and for players it would count how much you have on characters and assist such as TSL and bases Raw Credits.

This would drive more more competition.

Thoughts?
Author:  sabre198 [ Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Leaderboard Wealth
Which character would be assigned the tsl money
Author:  Badgerlost [ Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Leaderboard Wealth
sabre198 wrote:
Which character would be assigned the tsl money


What ever you set as the "Main" on the account
Author:  potato2 [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Leaderboard Wealth
I disagree because then everyone would know how much creds I have
Author:  kanescreed [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Leaderboard Wealth
this will allows us to gauge our surrender term and who to war.
/sign
Author:  Blue Dwarf [ Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Leaderboard Wealth
The old Wealth score was removed because it was too easy to manipulate.

kanescreed wrote:
this will allows us to gauge our surrender term and who to war.
/sign

Not really, players can hide their credits on alts and such to make you think they're poorer than they really are.

potato2 wrote:
I disagree because then everyone would know how much creds I have

You can just set a nub alt to your main (it has no function, other than displaying on the forum), so your TSL credits aren't counted. Alternatively, you can go the old school way and use a bank alt (typically an f2p account used purely to store credits).


Even with the extra measures (e.g., counting team funds, players hold, stations and TSL) it's still easy to manipulate.

One thing that might work, although I don't know if it's a good idea, is to make a Wealth score which is some amalgamated form of team income from team tithe, although I imagine a lot of teams will disprove as it means setting a team tithe to get score in it (and tithes are flexible, although I kind of like that).
Author:  Badgerlost [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Leaderboard Wealth
Blue Dwarf wrote:
The old Wealth score was removed because it was too easy to manipulate.

kanescreed wrote:
this will allows us to gauge our surrender term and who to war.
/sign

Not really, players can hide their credits on alts and such to make you think they're poorer than they really are.

potato2 wrote:
I disagree because then everyone would know how much creds I have

You can just set a nub alt to your main (it has no function, other than displaying on the forum), so your TSL credits aren't counted. Alternatively, you can go the old school way and use a bank alt (typically an f2p account used purely to store credits).


Even with the extra measures (e.g., counting team funds, players hold, stations and TSL) it's still easy to manipulate.

One thing that might work, although I don't know if it's a good idea, is to make a Wealth score which is some amalgamated form of team income from team tithe, although I imagine a lot of teams will disprove as it means setting a team tithe to get score in it (and tithes are flexible, although I kind of like that).


I like that also tbh, as said above the wealthiest team obv can pay more for surrender lol
Author:  Antilzah [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Leaderboard Wealth
I think removing wealth from team score was smart because high team score translates into faster acquisition of team skills. If we are truly moving into new team skill system, I don't see anything wrong with wealth score.
Author:  Blue Dwarf [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Leaderboard Wealth
It's still a gameable, though. I can set an alt to peon, set team tithe to 10% and give him like 10b and just buy and sell stuff to the AI base to transfer credits to team fund to increase the score.
Author:  Antilzah [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Leaderboard Wealth
Or you can just transfer money to funds? It doesn't require a rank as far as I know. If people want to hide their wealth, they can put them on unteamed alts. I don't see anything wrong about that. I would see wealth score as e-peen and nothing else.
Author:  Pontius123 [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Leaderboard Wealth
I'm against teams being forced to use cheesy/bullshit tactics to improve their team score.

I'm looking at Loyalty, Trading, and this potential Wealth. Loyalty is the Activity score, over time. So high Activity, high Loyalty. Trading is how much money being transferred around via AI ships (not your trade slaves, or player sales) buying and selling commodities to and from your public bases.

And the proposal for the Wealth score here is stupid, plus gives out information people may want to hide considering a Traders Councilor, joking or not, announced it would be a good way to gauge teams to strike at and demand surrender terms.
Author:  Badgerlost [ Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Leaderboard Wealth
I dont mean team score...

I mean on its own leaderboard for team wealth. Just like boss kills ect
Author:  Pontius123 [ Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Leaderboard Wealth
You could look at a team's roster, add up the number of credits each character/account is associated from the leaderboard, and gauge a team's overall wealth from there to make surrender terms.
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