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Post Hell Fire Remains/Love Cylinder Remains
Considering Dark Freighter Remains can eventually be built into a DF, you'd think HFR and LCR would eventually be combined into their respective weapons.

So...

25 Hell Fire Remains + misc credits and material = 1 Hell Fire

25 Love Cylinder Remains + misc credits and material = 1 Love Cylinder


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Post Re: Hell Fire Remains/Love Cylinder Remains
Sounds reasonable.

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Post Re: Hell Fire Remains/Love Cylinder Remains
Yes. Please, please, please do this.

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Post Re: Hell Fire Remains/Love Cylinder Remains
This sounds interesting to me. If the materials were something more... exotic than usual (not expensive, but uncommon), then I'd be up for it. Say, Aluminum Sheets, or even just Titanium/Laconia sheets would work.

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Post Re: Hell Fire Remains/Love Cylinder Remains
From an economic balancing standpoint, this does not sound like a good idea.

The only reason LCs have become in demand is because of new content or content change. If you farm Rosemaries enough you should get a good influx of the items you are looking for.

This change will debalance already balanced content.



The only thing that should reduce the demand is price. Let the player base decide how much this item is worth, do not let in to the dark side.

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Post Re: Hell Fire Remains/Love Cylinder Remains
Farmed Rosys for hours...literal hours (because Rosys are an easy AI to level noobs off of) over the course of several days. One Love Cylinder.

One.

I have like 5 Hell Fires though from leveling on Cleft Thorns, though it would be nice if I could make both of them.

But back to Love Cylinders. Are you telling me 60 hours of farming Love Cylinders is fine for 1 Pacifier Gen? And this is me hogging one of two major farming areas. 30 hours per gen worth of Love Cylinders? I wouldn't be surprised if average LC cost would shoot 5b per at that rate if you had a decent influx of FCs from Steam.


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Post Re: Hell Fire Remains/Love Cylinder Remains
Does it take 60 LCs for 1 gen?

If so that should probably be balanced.

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Post Re: Hell Fire Remains/Love Cylinder Remains
Takes 10 LC for 1 Pacifier Gen, 2 Pacifier Gens for 1 Peacemaker Gen, ergo, 20 LC for 1 Peacemaker Gen.

Takes anywhere from 1 to 3 hours of slaughtering *roaming* Rosemary AI (DG versions don't count) for 1 LC across a 15 galaxy region. There's probably around 45 galaxies in total that could sustain this level of farming.

Presuming all three areas get farmed, you're looking at ~9 hours of farming to get enough LC for *one* person's Peacemaker Gen.

And this is ignoring all other builds that want LC, of which there are several that are important for lower level players.

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Post Re: Hell Fire Remains/Love Cylinder Remains
1-3 hours honestly isn't bad for one LC. And for a high-end fighter gen I would say that if you want to farm it completely on your own, then 30 hours is totally reasonable. These gens were purposely put in with high front end costs because they are free to use forever after that moment, unlike missiles which still have to be continually purchased forever.

Honestly, I don't even think you should be able to farm high investment items out by yourself. I mean shit, in WoW there are tons of items that are designed to force group effort by making them take materials from like 4 different professions. SS doesn't have that level of complexity in manufacturing, but giving high cost to high-end items is completely reasonable to me. It creates a system where you are more likely to purchase, or resort to teamwork to gather the needed materials.


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Post Re: Hell Fire Remains/Love Cylinder Remains
Which honestly, on the 1-3 hour thing. I don't think it's ever taken me more than an hour to farm an LC using my SD. Which yeah, you could point out SD is really fast, but if you don't know anyone with an SD, or haven't created your own for quick farming of in-demand items then that is a disadvantage you have willfully accepted.


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