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Author:  reyjalrmm [ Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:38 am ]
Post subject:  Beef Annihilator Thruster
Seems there are now t22 thrusters with a fraction of the size and the same power. This was always meant to be the immovable thruster of SS.

Make it great again
Author:  USSGalaxy [ Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Beef Annihilator Thruster
Anni Thruster+ t22?
Author:  Pixel [ Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Beef Annihilator Thruster
Can you point out the thrusts in question? :?:
Author:  anilv [ Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Beef Annihilator Thruster
How about some new suggested stats, Shaft?
Author:  ShawnMcCall [ Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:35 pm ]
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anilv wrote:
How about some new suggested stats, Shaft?


How about rolling it back to it's old stats, from when it was awesome?
Author:  anilv [ Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Beef Annihilator Thruster
ShawnMcCall wrote:
anilv wrote:
How about some new suggested stats, Shaft?


How about rolling it back to it's old stats, from when it was awesome?


I'm not aware of any recent change to its stats.
Author:  USSGalaxy [ Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Beef Annihilator Thruster
Pixel wrote:
Can you point out the thrusts in question? :?:


I know Antu Zrrga is close to it in thrust. Haven't seen the upgraded one. Though PRC gets close to it in both turning and thrust with a speed boost in all honesty.
Author:  reyjalrmm [ Tue Apr 25, 2017 10:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Beef Annihilator Thruster
this is a tier 2-2.5 OS (expensive tier 2) T20 engine with 3152 size, 70000 thrust, 21280 turn.

PRC Tier 1, 441 size, 43400 thrust, 14100 turn +17% speed

Boson Blower - tier 0 t21 engine with 512 size, 55400 thrust, 10420 turn (and tractor str 10%)

Antu Zrgga - tier 0, 434 size, 63300 thrust, 9000 turn

there is also a tier 3 OS olympus engine 969 size, 51800 thrust, 17670 turn, 10% elec regen.



I would suggest pushing the 10000-125000 thrust 25000 turning if you are going to have an item this size that is a tier build to even compare it to what is coming out as t21 and t22 t0 engines.

The other way to rebalance this would be to tone down the sheer strength of tier 0 engines (no more than 30k thrust).

This item was basically made to be a bulky engine making ships immovable. Currently it is useless to make it considering how powerful other, cheaper engines are.
Author:  anilv [ Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Beef Annihilator Thruster
What if we go higher on the size?
Author:  ShawnMcCall [ Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Beef Annihilator Thruster
anilv wrote:
ShawnMcCall wrote:
anilv wrote:
How about some new suggested stats, Shaft?


How about rolling it back to it's old stats, from when it was awesome?


I'm not aware of any recent change to its stats.


I think it was changed shortly before or after the launch of C2. It used to be balanced as base gear though. If I recall correctly, 15k size, 160k thrust, 60k turning. Was it novel and mostly useless? Definitely, but it was fun that is what matters, and that is why everyone used to love it.
Author:  Max235 [ Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Beef Annihilator Thruster
Would like it to be the premier IC hauler engine for T0 moves

200k thrust, 30+k turn, 30m weight, 40k size or greater
Author:  reyjalrmm [ Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Beef Annihilator Thruster
Higher on the size is fine, but dont push it past 6k. It should still be usable on combat ships with more hull space if a player intends to do some heavy tractoring.
Author:  reyjalrmm [ Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Beef Annihilator Thruster
Max235 wrote:
Would like it to be the premier IC hauler engine for T0 moves

200k thrust, 30+k turn, 30m weight, 40k size or greater



That would be a pretty cool thruster. If it could be an anni thruster+ of some sort to add to that line.

Would cost something like 10 dem, 1 ada thrust module, 10b, 50 salt. Also, give it some ridiculous thrust projectile, much like what the anni thruster did in C1.

I believe it should have more turning than that though. More like 50k range to make it a balanced thrust/turn ratio
Author:  anilv [ Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Beef Annihilator Thruster
I would be OK with creating an Adamantiumized Thruster or something that builds out of Anni Thruster and has crazier stats like those proposed.
Author:  Antilzah [ Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Beef Annihilator Thruster
Ada Thruster would be awesome. But it would have to be t20. If we want similar t22 thruster, it could be bana themed. Bana has all tech levels and there is some bana base gear to tie this to the idea of of equippable base gear.
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