DarkSteel wrote:
What ship was nerfed?
Perhaps we can make a lower tech sing sphere alike ship.
Perhaps we can make a lower tech sing sphere alike ship.
DarkSteel so rich he doesn't know about Thatches
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| Author: | lrellok [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 2:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Add more Aug slots to all Industrial Freighters |
Since the dev team has seen fit to nerf the only decent lower level base hauler into the ground, starting players are going to have a serious problem transporting and setting up bases. While many current players have things like sing brakes, new players are not going to have these, and will for the most part have to build bases the hard way. A third or even fourth aug slot on industrial freighters could not possibly be unbalanced, and would allow people to mount things like Agility or Nimbleness augs on top of capacity augs. |
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| Author: | DarkSteel [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Add more Aug slots to all Industrial Freighters |
What ship was nerfed? Perhaps we can make a lower tech sing sphere alike ship. |
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| Author: | ShawnMcCall [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 4:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Add more Aug slots to all Industrial Freighters |
DarkSteel wrote: What ship was nerfed? Perhaps we can make a lower tech sing sphere alike ship. DarkSteel so rich he doesn't know about Thatches
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| Author: | Max235 [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 4:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Add more Aug slots to all Industrial Freighters |
Rendghast was using the Battle Thatch as a trade slave for moving stuff like metals around. When the dev team upped its weight to 20m and nerfed its engine, it became unuseable as a trade slave. Rendghast is a f2p, and therefore no Merchant Fleet Mastery. I personally don't see a problem with the nerf. Immobile Siege Capital Ships are not designed to be used as Heavy Duty Haulers. As for Player Haulers, my Massif IIIs have 35k odd hull, move at 170 speed when they get going, and have pretty good agility. Also, all gear a f2p can get. I did the calculations for a f2p Leviathan+ slave and it comes out to 21k free space at 130 speed. Pretty good. For a single person trying to run a prod base. Please. A single person is not going to have the slots to run a multi-galaxy prod right out of the box. Even with all characters filled out, he still won't be able to do it. I'm talking about one that moves ~500m commods/day, as Rendghast is doing. It incentivizes teamwork, also something Rendghast seems to be unable to handle. He built alone, and afaik no one else uses his prod. |
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| Author: | ShawnMcCall [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 4:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Add more Aug slots to all Industrial Freighters |
Dafuq... in what world should you have access to better slaves than Dark Freighters as an F2P?... Also, just an observation; Build Adv. Good Sardine Augs and your slaves will work fine again. They'll probably actually have more hull as well. Unless you're already using them, in which case, see my original point... |
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| Author: | lrellok [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Add more Aug slots to all Industrial Freighters |
DarkSteel wrote: What ship was nerfed? Perhaps we can make a lower tech sing sphere alike ship.  If you wish to make another 5 aug no weapons tech 15 ship, please, be my guest, but i now have to find a new way to hual a systems worth of base equipment on something fast enough to catch a spinning station (and some of those planets have a rotation speed of 50+ btw) ShawnMcCall wrote: Dafuq... in what world should you have access to better slaves than Dark Freighters as an F2P?... Its called being very inventive. most sandbox games try to incentivize that. |
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| Author: | ShawnMcCall [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Add more Aug slots to all Industrial Freighters |
As much as I hate to help you with like anything at all... those slaves would be way better with Adv Good Sardines. In fact your current aug setup is pretty shit, so you have no place to complain about your slaves being terrible, you augged them to be terrible. Those should have easily over 100k hull and way better acceleration. |
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| Author: | Antilzah [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Add more Aug slots to all Industrial Freighters |
Singularity brake is t20 equipment item and available for f2p. For moving base equipment I suggest a thatch. Thatch is also available for f2p. If you are unable to get sing brake, you can aug thatch with some good traction augs. |
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| Author: | Max235 [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Add more Aug slots to all Industrial Freighters |
Antilzah wrote: Singularity brake is t20 equipment item and available for f2p. For moving base equipment I suggest a thatch. Thatch is also available for f2p. If you are unable to get sing brake, you can aug thatch with some good traction augs. He HAS a Particle/Singularity Brake. He just refuses to use it. |
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| Author: | lrellok [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Add more Aug slots to all Industrial Freighters |
Max235 wrote: Antilzah wrote: Singularity brake is t20 equipment item and available for f2p. For moving base equipment I suggest a thatch. Thatch is also available for f2p. If you are unable to get sing brake, you can aug thatch with some good traction augs. He HAS a Particle/Singularity Brake. He just refuses to use it. i just explained that maxa. I use it quite frequintly, just not when i am trying to get base equipment onto fast moving planets. |
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| Author: | DarkSteel [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Add more Aug slots to all Industrial Freighters |
But... that's one of it's main uses... |
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| Author: | sabre198 [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Add more Aug slots to all Industrial Freighters |
No mfm would use that as a slave what's wrong with u boi |
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| Author: | anilv [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 2:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Add more Aug slots to all Industrial Freighters |
Anyway, the Battle Thatch is not an industrial freighter. Existing industrial freighters are nicely balanced already for moving cargo. |
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| Author: | ShawnMcCall [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Add more Aug slots to all Industrial Freighters |
sabre198 wrote: No mfm would use that as a slave what's wrong with u boi He's not MFM, he's F2P so no trade skills. |
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| Author: | Dragontvb [ Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Add more Aug slots to all Industrial Freighters |
You could buy some of the many battle thatches that are floating around with cap engines and be a boss and break the economy |
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