Are you aware of what a PvP range is?
This game had PvP in earth force for years.

Because i did not sell 120 Beautiful eyes at the start of the uni...or 100 Basil Sheaths last uni, or every Hot Goods i could get my hands on....oh, wait, i did.

Do you really not understand how out of touch all of you sound right now?

Why are you hoarding those items rather then ai basing them?

THis is why i think you funning with me, you keep asking questions i already answered...




ANd languished in obscurity for years becouse of it. I remember hearing about SS back in 2008 and getting told "Do not join that game, they butcher new players for lunch."

On my Singles character, I was running this daily:
Colored Empires
Auric Sector
Blanco
Jungle

I was pulling 500m+ a day, easily. Some days I pulled 500m from Auric Sector alone.

Colored Empires doesn't give much loot, but gives good credits for the time it takes (like 100 or 200m or so?). Lockout is daily, fixed.
Auric Sector is so easy money, you just kill all the AI and scoop their credits/stuff and AI base it all. Keep some Fool's Gold to do the mission (which is 1hr reset), use the Gold for the other mission or keep it for yourself (or sell to players).
Blanco gives like 250m or so, plus kills count for Strontium-90 and alright loot. If the loot is AI base gear I sell it, other stuff I keep but some of it I'll sell if I'm getting too much. Reset is daily, fixed.
Jungle gives like 0 money, but the drops are a lot and consistent. Primal Jungle blueprints sell for 20m each to the AI base and the bits of gear vary. I was getting so much I was tossing non-modded stuff; now I'm just AI basing it all.

After that, you can do other stuff for monies. I've been DGing the last few days and I've sold about 10 Demenetium Fragments to a base in Free Market (since we can't build dem yet) (which is 6b in total, btw) to get money and I'm not doing the above so much any more.

Strontium-90 provides good money and XP, especially if you're taking the missions appropriate for your level (silvers and golds are far better than the bronze ones).

On top of this there's other things you could be doing, like capping. Infernos and all their gear can be sold to Ice Matrix in Glass Matrix for around 10m, Basils and SBB/SBGs go for higher (iirc it's 14m for a Basil) but you can't sell the hull (but you can scrap it now for 0 credits). Your team mates or new players aren't going to want any of this gear, as it's all either AI base or otherwise easily obtainable. Capping is some very good money, but I always hated it (plus was annoying to do as an Engineer).

Setting up and selling items in a shop is only worthwhile if you're selling items people want. No one wants to buy used toilet paper or yesterday's newspaper. You can get an idea of what's good to sell by looking at what other people are selling in their shops.

Wasn't this post supposed to be about expanding EFs buildable space? Why not just enable pvp on warp2+ galaxies and allow building in warp 2. Make a obvious warning that its pvp enabled if laying a drone and or base. This not only solves the silly arguement that you "need" prom and ICs fund anything? which quite frankly makes little sense mainly as ICs are newish to the game but allows far more expansion in case steam isn't a failure and we have a large amount of players entering the game. (whenever we get it)


As a sidenote I have a singles character, while yes I have knowledge to give me a bigger edge I was easily able to get over 40 billion credits within a week and half of starting, by selling items and gear to player bases mainly from low end dg farming. After that initial period it became far easier once I had invested in slaves and skills/gear but I got a bit bored and stopped playing on it as much. Oh and bearing in mind I work full time so couldn't be on 24/7 farming.

Let it never be said I will not agree to a reasonable compramise. Enable building in w2 with F2P ONLY pvp, and this is perfectly fine with me. I am reasonably confident most mid players can take down anyone with tech19 equipment. Alternatively, bring back celestial gardains as a
W1 and w2 F2P pvp only buildable zone and I again am happy. The point of this is that lower level players need more building room, and this solves that.

Ty sir for your excelent contribution!

F2P only PvP is abusable since P2P can simply create decked out F2P accounts to mess with legitimate new players.

Hey now! there's some of us who capped thousands of infernos back in the day



Yes, you are supposed to AI base things like that. If no one is buying it for "three times that price" then its not really worth three times the ai base price is it?. I understand that making money as a fresh player is exceedingly hard (more so now with creds being worth so little in the grand scheme of things) but there are ways to get some footing in the game, they just require time and effort.

My recruitment policy on DSF was to recruit people who at least knew the basics. If they were a reasonable personality and eager to learn, I would talk to them beforehand to gauge what they needed to know. My main policy was having people learn to play the game, rather than learn to make money, because in the end if you're there just to make money, or you don't know how to play, they you're going to have a bad time actually progressing up the tech levels.

You are doing exactly as you did as an officer on DSF; nothing has changed since I left. You are recruiting bodies, not people, and not teaching them or even checking if they know how to play the game. You are funding their setups entirely/rest of active team alone because no one has the foreknowledge to play the game beyond randomly float around.

You are planning and funding everything on the basis of Everyone's Out To Get You and I Don't Play More Than 5 Hours a Week and I'm a Fucking Packrat.

You have wealth. It's not easily translated into capital because *you* chose to not liquidate it.

Building a team from the ground up is a group effort and a required trust test. If people aren't helping, or at least being a regular taxed soldier, then they aren't good teammates, and need to be booted. I personally can't fund all of SRX by myself, as you are trying to do (and failing) for DSF. To fund 65 galaxies of 5+ ada T20 per, I'm looking at 4.8tril per universe is JUST base kits. For me to actually actually pay that bill, I need 120 colonies...

But, in the first room of Arctia with the AI base, top left area, the Massif in ice? Prospect that solarbody to get hundreds of Solar Prisms minimum. ENIAC scanner is for planet resources for bases to extract. EDVAC scanners are galaxy-wide prospecting node scanners. If you can't find something someone is pointing out, maybe ask for clarification instead of assuming they don't know what they are talking about.

Whichever is the system scanner, I went through artica with one and founf bupkis. So if someone tells me there is chicken in the oven, and I walk to the kitchen and find no chicken and the oven stone cold, its a safe bet they have no clue waht they are talking about.

Just looked on admin pane. There is definitely a Solar Prism prospecting node on the planet called "Polaris Wreck".

It's this kind of strong headed stubbornness which is limiting your growth in the game.

As Bobbo has pointed out, the wreckage is named Polaris Wreck. On the wiki page Arctia, you can see the Massif in the top left of the first image on the right, and is the main focus of the second image on the right.
http://wiki2.starsonata.com/index.php/Arctia

First image: http://wiki2.starsonata.com/index.php/File:Arctia.jpg
Second image: http://wiki2.starsonata.com/index.php/File:Arctia3.jpg

Occasionally you will no Solar Prisms to be prospected from it, as other players do prospect it for Solar Prisms. The node seems to respawn fairly frequently however.