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Post Re: Eclipse Super Star Destroyer vs Eve Titans
I just assumed he spent 6 solid months a year doing this https://youtu.be/Tc_JWE_ypEk


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Post Re: Eclipse Super Star Destroyer vs Eve Titans
Valkyrie300 wrote:
The sheer firepower of a 17.5 km Eclipse will shrug off any weapons an EVE frigate can bring to bear against it.


I... what? What does this even mean? "firepower will shrug off weapons." THIS IS NOT HOW ANYTHING WORKS. Shields
block firepower and weapons. You still are unable to counter the fact that EVE has energy shields and 'Deflector Shields' are screen-door-on-submarine useful.


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Eclipse SSDs can shoot in any direction due to the number of armaments mounted on the front, sides, and aft of the vessel. Not to mention its range superiority over a small frigate. Mobility is an advantage for the frigate obviously, but its not fast or small enough to dodge incoming fire.


I wasn't talking about an Eclipse's primary plasma bolt cannon armament. I was talking about the Superlaser, the planet cracker. That is not 360-degree tracking and as such is a moot point when fighting a frigate. Also, range?
This is space. Range isn't a factor. Especially not for something as small as a frigate firing at something as large as an Eclipse. The term 'kiting' fits quite well as to a viable strategy.


Valkyrie300 wrote:
The Titans' superweapons although powerful are not in the same league as an Eclipse' Superlaser, which can overcome a planetary shield and then proceed to destroy its crust. An Avatar's doomsday device can overcome a planetary shield and render the surface temporarily uninhabitable which is not as impressive.


In the Titan-Eclipse battle, the outcome would not be determined by weapon strength. The difference between the weapons doesn't actually seem that large, as going from uninhabitable -> crust cracking is not that big a jump. The place where this battle would be decided is the shields.

In the case of shields, this matchup is completely laughable. The battle would be one shot long. One from the Eclipse, which the shields of the Titan eat; and one from the Titan, which would bisect the Eclipse like a shish kebab.

Also, Church; we are engaging in the holiest holies of sci-fi-fan traditions. Yes, it does feel like taking candy from a baby from my end, but it is still entertaining nonetheless.

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Post Re: Eclipse Super Star Destroyer vs Eve Titans
Presuming both would exist in the same universe and would actually face each other on the same battlefield, I commend you guys to look at how many fucking trained crew is needed to work even a normal Star Destroyer, to the single person that can run *any* Capsuleer ship. Then realize how much effort it takes to raise, train, and then feed even a clone army. For every SSD, you can field 100,000 Titans. Simple math.

But they don't exist in the same universe.


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Post Re: Eclipse Super Star Destroyer vs Eve Titans
Are you seriously saying eve titans have just one crew member?


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Post Re: Eclipse Super Star Destroyer vs Eve Titans
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Are you seriously saying eve titans have just one crew member?


Ships of the four NPC empires and the vast majority of smaller NPC organizations are fully crewed. Frigates have something akin to commercial airliner crew, whereabouts Titans can have thousands.

But Capsuleer Technology, which is the whole point behind the game's lore and represents the player in game, is a one person escape pod sized ship that is used to neurologically interface with *any* ship. Alone.

So there, a one person being able to pilot a 14km long ship. Big battles in Star Wars have hundreds of thousands to millions of combatants (ignoring droid armies but including clones), with something between ten and a hundred times that in supporting people that transport, build, research, and feed said navies. A three thousand ship fleet for the Imperial Empire represents 20 million people, or more. A three thousand ship fleet for Eve is literally three thousand people.

Which is why I say you can't compare them. But if you did, I don't care if the SSD has a planet cracking laser, for every SSD you need to crew, your opponent can field 280k starships at that size and strength against you.


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