ohhh yeah ... i want to know how much damage my alt's missiles are actually doing lol

can you please balance panther OL, i plan to use it on a panther not a pax so the hull is a bit too large if u get my drift ;p, balance it balance it!!!!

Dont worry about it... seems like your panther is long way away.

Sorry... too soon?

nah its fine now i have a few things im gunna sell or w/e XD

you make babies cry with your cruelty


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I noticed that someone has changed the core skill 20 requirements again.

You now need both the commod and the mission.

Not only does it defeat the purpose of the mission but it is grossly unfair to the most endangered sector of SS players the low/mid level players who have yet to get those skills.

SS has a population bulge around level 1k-2.5k, players who have benefitted from the easy leveling, and the ability to do the missions to complete core skills. I noticed that the players who were saying it was too easy to get core skills were in that level range.

These are core skills they should be doable.

The fact is they are NOT doable by the level of character that the skills are aimed at ( 500-600) unless you have a powerful team behind you. This means those midlevel teams have to beg a place on another teams run. Since the commod requirement is back this is unlikely to happen as the commods now have OTHER uses as well.

BTW this is compounded by the new uni system. Since to get tier 3 commods necessary to development a team has to take high df galaxies. This means that low-mid level characters (up to about level 300) who lack the warp skills cannot get to the team are and are condemmed to fend for themselves in lower level areas. Most teams now simply don't recruit these people and this exaserbates the problem.

I totally disagree. I would take some effort yes but it's totally doable. It was much harder back when the level 20 skills where first added but we still succeded in getting them.
Wep 20 may be difficult without tech 20 ships so you would get P20 first.

I'm inclined to agree with Llessur. This is a testable hypothesis, however, and would make a rather fun event, I think

There you are Voomy a challenge.
Get a group of 4-6 level 550-800 average characters together and go and do Bana.

I know you will have fun

I don't think average characters of level 550-800 should get weapons 20...

it took 20 of these "average characters" to do bana in the beginning. Get 20 people and go do it.

I never said you could do it with 4-6 people. At level 500 they should start by working on pilot 20. When they all have it they would do equip 20. Then they would do shielding 20.
With those skills they have the ability to make some pretty nice ships and can start working on EE 20 and wep 20.

Luckily there is more then 4-6 people playing the game and we even have a chat in which you can talk to others. No one will ever get the level 20 skills with a group of level 500 players who have none of the skills themselfs. But it is very much possible.

like I suggested, make an event out of it. . . .
Spawn a bana queen and the AI in Colo and have people try to kill it using no t20 weapons . . . maybe some other restrictions as well to simulate a group of newer players (like no uz ships or combined aspect augs)

Play as a team. Don't think to solo everything.

No UZ ships, no + versions of basic ships(Pax+), no drone augs, no T20 weps, and no Ca_ augs.

that should have just covered everything