At last,

Smiley I agree, in relation to setting up a DM, having a good a shield bank and a good energy bank with excellent regen on both, say 2 x Pte or 2 x Adv Sup Defensive Augs, and an Adv Sup invig aug. I had a similar set up to this prior to the realisation that drones without drone augs were weak and I couldn't break the regen of a pick, so a stale mate occurred. If the Drones themself were capable of inflicting damage over a period of time, ie at least break regen, i think with your suggestion about DM overloaders and the ability to fit to a Pax Astro, this would be a good compromise and level the DM ranks.

The only addition I would like to make to this is: Similar to perminant Titans that they are not tractorable by adverseries. I have and I am in no doubt that others have lost drones to AI who lock onto a drone with a tractor making it unscoopable only to watch with a look of dispair from my pod as I counted the billions incost go up in smoke due to not being able to scoop them. In essience a DM isn't worth anything without their drones.

Alternatively, make drones scoopable regardless if a tractor has a lock on them or not, so if a DM is looking down the barrel of being podded at least he / she can save their valuable cargo and take their chances on Crazy Glue the same as any other player, protecting their valuable weapons.

Quick fix .... half the ops bonus on all the augs or maybe even cut them to a third .... and see how it goes.

They cut the DM exps to a 3rd of their bonus ... and that worked fine.

Happy days.

I really like this idea! This would be perfect solution. If really possible in future that is! Would love see more comments for this one! Ofcourse there would be bunch of these OLs with different stats available? Right .. ?




I agree 100%, Couldn't say this better myself!

Drones can be broken when the Op augs are stacked, i have seen DWo's go over 1k range with insane rof, now Sd and snipers are unable to do so, it's either the range, the dmg, the rof or a balance. As for zerkers they simply have a limited use and like engineer's once the energy is gone there a sitting duck.

A comment on Smiley's idea would be to have a aura gen that affects drones only, instead of having a OL. This would stop people from stacking the Ops and if a team of DM's get together they don't have to rely on having a OL each, they can instead have a different type of aura gen each thus making the drones alot cooler then they would be when the DM is solo.

As for DM augs, as far as i'm aware their only use is for the drone ops. I'd suggest making the augs obslete and trading them in for token's. From what i have seen and expierenced Engi mastery's work perfectly fine for a DM, only prob is they didn't boost drones

Drone ops are far too broken when stacked, joe you are inactive and have not seen their effect recently, and OL is kinda limiting for a DM as most use a pax, which what do you know has a inbuilt OL so that kinda doesn't work.

And the comment about nerfing armada drones themself, personally not such a great idea. A DM puts 5bil+ worth of drones on the line everytime he lays them, they should do more then competetive DPS etc to players otherwise it simply wouldn't be worth it. Although as it has been said before drones do need some kind of safety mechanism whethers they change into broken drones or they go into stasis or something, but something does need to change.

oh and joe get on msn

No offence, but he can say that becuase frankly, your alt aja doesn't have the augs/ship/gear we're talking about for really high lvl DMing.

~bach

Pax
DM Augs
skills
gear (including armada charge drone)
Have all except enough armada drones. No offence taken.

pos+, general ops prowess, and adv sup invig.... i'm sorry but those dont quite qualify imo for higher lvl dming. At least not in the sense of saying "hey I cant solo DF 200, but X class can solo 250"

I dont think your at the peak/high point of a DM to represent the brokeness we're currently talkin about.

But hey... what do I know dming for 2 years, bein the second DM to activly use armada drones... and help figure out rhino and pax+ setups...

Again, no offence intended, just pointing out a few things.

~bach

Yeh but why use an overloader to benefit just a single DM when a DM can use a aura that will also benefit a friend, for example one use an offensive gen and one use a defensive gen, this way the drones have both bonuses and aren't entirely all that broken depends on the stats of the gen.

but who's say aura gens aren't already comming in for classes... like ones that increased a drone's resists ect.... if you put the drone ops in there... you take away that potential in the future. Where as if u put it in an OL... it's much mroe likely to be used and benificial.

~bach

if i remember rightly jeff had said somthing about aura generators once and i havnt heard about anything concerning them since. but i do belive that overloaders is the best way to go. if they can be equiped on paxes and are effected in some way by AT. ( since i think making them equaly as powerfull as the augmenters with full AT is broken on lower lvl charicters who couldnt train that far. and them being weaker then the full skill for high dms who have trained thus far is just retarded, it also gives more emphasis in AT and gives them a much more powerfull role.)

if we did what neuraxis has suggested and half or even third the power of the drone ops augmenters and in the same patch add the overloaders. (wont presume to give stats...but close to the full of the current stats might work out)

perhaps you could add a special slot on pax's that is for these drone ops overloaders exclusively? and code it so that they are also considerd standard overloaders..might let you equip them on a pax, and also on ships without built-in overloaders.

well, let me define broken...talking about Neuraxis

Neuraxis:

Soloed Prince <4mins (with a healer) still solo dps
Soloes all of the Lion lvls including the LION mini boss, that Takes a farly big group to kill it....i also find the lion mini boss harder than the lion , DMs are usesless lion lvl b/c of the fact they sun moves or he would solo that... and if ANY of u dms wanna say that not broken you are a laugh , if anoyne disagrees with this you are a i dont even have a word for u people