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Main: Convivial
Level: 1145 Joined: Sun May 15, 2005 9:18 pm Posts: 0 |
the 3-6% isn't what bugs me, things that are impossible to get unless you were there before is what bugs me.
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Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:37 pm |
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Rank: Officer Main: R.S.S. Wasp Level: 4683 Joined: Wed Feb 23, 2005 7:15 am Posts: 174 |
I think it's awful my idea is: 30% for up to 3, then 20% for 4 and 5 then 5% per level. That's more an equaliser I think.
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Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:39 pm |
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Rank: Director Main: Calypso Level: 1800 Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2004 7:00 pm Posts: 757 Location: Scranton, PA, USA, Earth, Sol, Orion Spur, Milky Way, Local Group, Universe, Multiverse |
Man, I'm going to not be AS super uber (-5%), until I get the AT up some.. such as life I guess. Overall though, I think it's good for the big picture, also, perhaps it will finally stop people whoring accounts!!! The only reason some accounts are still around at all is due to the high levels of Aug Tweak.
I can't stress enough though, that it SHOULD NOT BE extremely extremely expensive for the Skill Point cost. Honestly, some people are lost without their current AT levels, and if I can't afford to get mine back up, how will I be able to level for the points I need? It could become really touchy for some people. Calypso _________________ "My name isn't Slick. It's Zoidberg! John f***ing Zoidberg!" Some people want to love their god. Others want to "love" their god. Mmmmm.... adum..... << OMG It's my head in a jar!!! |
Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:44 pm |
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Rank: Officer Main: Purgatory Level: 1075 Joined: Tue Jun 07, 2005 7:49 am Posts: 0 Location: Netherlands - Friesland |
Hmm btw what will happen to ships with cap augs? The famous 2 caly emp behe's/DF's, or the infamous 6 heph thatch? will they lose half their hull?
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Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:57 pm |
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Rank: Director Main: Desert Rat Level: 652 Joined: Sat May 07, 2005 4:47 am Posts: 0 Location: In Cage |
I dont see why they just dont make the Old AT automatically convert into the new AT, apart from the fact it will mean extra effort.
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Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:10 am |
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Rank: Officer Main: Valtyda Level: 7107 Joined: Sun Jan 29, 2006 1:59 am Posts: 101 Location: Zuidland -- Farmerland |
I agree with Rat/Ferret up here. Just make the old At convert to the new AT I got AT3 (and P2P) like 2 weeks after the skill went paying, meaning it cost me 400m. I don't have the money to get the skill again nor the power (after the nerf) to do the content (I think, not sure how hard it's going to be).
I like the legacy skill tho. But, ya, new players who want to be uber still can't get it, which will be unbalanced in time too, which will mean another nerf... Greetz Val |
Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:28 am |
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Rank: Officer Main: R.S.S. Wasp Level: 4683 Joined: Wed Feb 23, 2005 7:15 am Posts: 174 |
Destroying the skill by doing this is a crime against the playerbase I think. Please take my way. Think, it'll mean that AT 3 is better, hell, make 4 and 5 15% instead, but the thing is at least the others will be stronger then. It's SANE, is that so wrong? I am a long time player and I believe I know what I'm talking about. This way it;s much more equal. Trust my opinion.
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Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:31 am |
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Retyu, when everyone can get the same maximum level in the new AT (they can right?), how is your system where we're locked in the old AT formula just with altered values more fair? In the short term, it seems like this might hurt the current players with high AT, but in the long run, this is going to make things a lot better for everyone.
Oh, and 3-6% isn't that much at all, not like the 40-50% gap we have now. I can't see that ever being a problem if they goto the new system they proposed. Calypso _________________ "My name isn't Slick. It's Zoidberg! John f***ing Zoidberg!" Some people want to love their god. Others want to "love" their god. Mmmmm.... adum..... << OMG It's my head in a jar!!! |
Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:35 am |
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Rank: Councilor Main: Leroy78 Level: 3360 Joined: Sat Apr 30, 2005 7:02 pm Posts: 2 Location: US |
What about poor people like me who can only probably afford aug tweak to like 5.
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Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:36 am |
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Rank: Officer Main: R.S.S. Wasp Level: 4683 Joined: Wed Feb 23, 2005 7:15 am Posts: 174 |
I worked for Aug Tweak 5, and so did the people I worked with. I think that we deserve a small edge. What I suggest will lower the differences between us and the other players. It will allow them to kill the AI in warp 3. Surely you can agree with this? Either that or theres something you're not telling us.
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Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:38 am |
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Rank: Officer Main: Valtyda Level: 7107 Joined: Sun Jan 29, 2006 1:59 am Posts: 101 Location: Zuidland -- Farmerland |
Guitarmanliam wrote: What about poor people like me who can only probably afford aug tweak to like 5. /agreed I'm really poor atm |
Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:38 am |
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Rank: Main: Polydectes Level: 1842 Joined: Sat Sep 11, 2004 2:37 pm Posts: 0 |
also what about f2p char taht currently have AT3.. it will ruin thier SP, they will ahve the legacy, but no way to get the new tweaking.. and with argo lvl 20 abses, we need every uber f2p taht can take those out as is.. uhg, FIX BASES
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Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:39 am |
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Main: Shock
Level: 473 Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 3:28 am Posts: 0 Location: Helsinki, Finland |
Most interesting thing here is that when you put this in and people don't have money for the skill, they can't do NOTHING. If they don't have bases, they can't get the money for the AT and without the AT you can't kill any mobs.
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Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:41 am |
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Rank: Councilor Main: Leroy78 Level: 3360 Joined: Sat Apr 30, 2005 7:02 pm Posts: 2 Location: US |
P. I. Rate wrote: Most interesting thing here is that when you put this in and people don't have money for the skill, they can't do NOTHING. If they don't have bases, they can't get the money for the AT and without the AT you can't kill any mobs. My point exactly. I have 3 bases but they suck and make no money, so yeah. |
Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:43 am |
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Rank: Officer Main: RevolutionPower Level: 4939 Joined: Sat Dec 03, 2005 10:45 am Posts: 47 Location: UK |
Quote: Players will not be forced to do the content to get the new augmenter tweaking. We will add stations were players can 'buy' the new augmenter tweaking skill to a level that will be comparable to their current augmenter bonus. Augmenter Tweaking 3 can get New Augmenter Tweaking 30 Augmenter Tweaking 4 can get New Augmenter Tweaking 35 Augmenter Tweaking 5 can get New Augmenter Tweaking 40 So a player with AT3 can only buy his new aug tweak skill to 30. But not to 35, he'd have to do content for that? And a player with AT4 would be able to buy his way upto New AT35. Correct? And wether you have AT3, or 5, or higher you can always get AT55 by doing content (for either 25 levels for people with AT3, or 15 levels for people with AT5 or higher). Correct? And anyone below AT3 can't buy it? And will have to do content to get his AT up? Extremely pleased with the new changes. But I'm wondering about the above questions. Also, when will this happen? Edit: I saw above a nice point by pi. I can't say there's no way to make money for AT, but it's deffo much harder. After all, people can kill mobs to pay the what, 200-300mil for AT3 now can't they? But it'd be cool if people with AT3 would just auto-get NAT30, and AT4 would get NAT35 etc. And then content for the remaining 15-25 bonus levels, with the last 5 prolly being extremely challenging. After all, they payed for it before anyway. Last edited by Revolution on Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:49 am, edited 1 time in total. |
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