you still dont get it..... the proposals u keep saying will make the anni beam BROKEN. 5k dps for std? on a grem wep ur insane. Build cost would need to be at least 5x as more if u did that. If it had to be changed, make it 1.5k or MAYBE 1.75

Well now we know what the skill revamp will look like. It also means Station Mastery, CA and EE will keep the exact same bonuses as current. However Station Mastery can no longer be gotten along with CA or EE.

This means a loss of half the current base bonus. Which is supposed to be offset by this base beefing.

So here is some figures using a current Station Mastery 20 and CA or EE 20 base vs a future Station Mastery 20 or CA 20 or EE 20 base.

Current Station Mastery 20 + CA or EE 20 base stats. Using Andaman Energy, Protector, Charger and Laser. No Augs.

energy bank 93600
energy regen 10800/1.2
shield bank 93600
shield regen 1500/0.67
andaman laser damage 1440
andaman laser range 1029.6
andaman laser recoil 1.22
andaman laser dps 1178.1

Future Station Mastery 20 or CA 20 or EE 20 base. Again using same equipment as above. No Augs. Also includes the x3 proposed shield bank increase.

energy bank 72800
energy regen 8400/1.2
shield bank 218,400
shield regen 1500/0.86
andaman laser damage 1120
andaman laser range 800.8
andaman laser recoil 1.57
andaman laser dps 712.7

Now the base beefing is supposed to make bases stronger because of new Character level restrictions and Skill Revamps. Well below is the difference the future Andaman base with a laser has.

Energy Bank 20,800 less
Energy regen 2,400 less every 1.2 seconds
Shield Bank 124,800 more
Shield Regen takes 0.19 seconds longer
Andaman Laser Damage 320 less a shot
Andaman Laser Range 228.8 shorter
Andaman Laser Recoil 0.35 seconds longer
Andaman Laser DPS 465.4 less every second

Not to mention a 40% bonus loss in Radar Range, Radar Detection and Weapon Tracking. That last one is huge. Sure we get more damage using the Base MagCanno and Pulse guns. But they will now also be 40% less able to hit their targets then before.

Someone please tell me where 124,800 more Shield Bank makes up for all that loss??????? Please

let me get this straight:

anyone with berzerker CANNOT obtain the new skills, looking at the chart Bluejayez made.

altough, people with fighter ace (such as snipers and SD's and sheild monks) have toe choice to get juice junky or commander. This looks fine, because anythiong else would break theses skills

no mater what is changed, you CANNOT allow SD's, MF's, snipers (or even seers) to get gunner EVER

snipers and SD's and seers MF'ing these weapons is BROKEN:
excoms
searing beams
TRL's
DWO's
ohl's
TT+'s
Ukukuuu quu's
jiji quu's:shock:

why is an mf of trl broken?

Goz... Gunner replaces the position on skill 'web' that EE has... Gunner is on the opposite side of the web...

Also, doesn't this belong in the other thread?