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The Voomy One
Team: Rank: Councilor Main: The Voomy One Level: 1337 Joined: Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:06 am Posts: 4137
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Compare the resists of those IQ ships to the DS and keep in mind that the IQ ships are tech 19....15% is a small nerf.
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Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:31 pm |
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mejunkie
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Team: Rank: Main: Dr Junkie Level: 2230 Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:29 am Posts: 29
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DS has a way more powerfull overloader and alot more speed.
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Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:43 pm |
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The Voomy One
Team: Rank: Councilor Main: The Voomy One Level: 1337 Joined: Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:06 am Posts: 4137
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Silent death gives +50% damage, OS 5 gives +40% damage. Sure there's a difference but it's not enough to make up for the crazy resists on the IQ ships since they are tech 19.
A lot more speed? DS has 150, what does the SD IQ ships have, 135? That's not a lot more speed....
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Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:46 pm |
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BAM5992
Main: Goz Level: 1564
Joined: Sat Dec 17, 2005 9:39 pm Posts: 83 Location: Eredar US, Gozmatic (Horde)
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we must ermember, its tech 19
not a DS
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Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:51 pm |
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mejunkie
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Team: Rank: Main: Dr Junkie Level: 2230 Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:29 am Posts: 29
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The Voomy One wrote: Silent death gives +50% damage, OS 5 gives +40% damage. Sure there's a difference but it's not enough to make up for the crazy resists on the IQ ships since they are tech 19. A lot more speed? DS has 150, what does the SD IQ ships have, 135? That's not a lot more speed....
Silent Death gives +50% DPS, OS5 gives +5% DPS.
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Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:58 pm |
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IAmMe2
Main: Cyphe12 Level: 1566
Joined: Fri Dec 02, 2005 11:50 am Posts: 0 Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Ukuk Current Stats:
Tech 19
250 Hull
120 Speed
2 Weaps
4 Augs
4 Vis
RESISTS:
----- 60% Energy
----- 60% Physical
----- -9% Heat
----- 80% Laser
----- 60% Surgical
----- 60% Radiation
I suggest they be changed to:
Tech 19
250 Hull
110 Speed
2 Weaps
4 Augs
4 Vis
RESISTS:
----- 30% Energy
----- 50% Physical
----- -50% Heat
----- 70% Laser
----- 50% Surgical
----- 50% Radiation
Vazuk Current Stats:
Tech 19
250 Hull
130 Speed
2 Weaps
4 Augs
40 Vis
RESISTS:
----- 50% Energy
----- 50% Physical
----- -20% Heat
----- 75% Laser
----- 50% Surgical
----- 50% Radiation
I suggest:
Tech 19
250 Hull
150 Speed
2 Weaps
4 Augs
10 Vis
RESISTS:
----- 20% Energy
----- 50% Physical
----- -30% Heat
----- 70% Laser
----- 50% Surgical
----- 50% Radiation
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Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:02 pm |
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Kinky
Main: Lethal Dosage Level: 2825
Joined: Sat Jul 08, 2006 5:11 am Posts: 14
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mejunkie wrote: The Voomy One wrote: Silent death gives +50% damage, OS 5 gives +40% damage. Sure there's a difference but it's not enough to make up for the crazy resists on the IQ ships since they are tech 19. A lot more speed? DS has 150, what does the SD IQ ships have, 135? That's not a lot more speed.... Silent Death gives +50% DPS, OS5 gives +5% DPS.
Just ignore Vooms posts, he likes twisting things around to make everything he dislikes look imbalanced.
Keep in mind, this is an *extremely* rare ruin, and I don't think it has ever been found before this universe, and DS is FAR better than either of the Bana ships, without question. Sure the Bana ships have high resists.. but so do all light fighters, and Locu has Energy/Phys Weakness sinces its AI Base, and DS has its massively insane Overloader and more Speed.
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Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:04 pm |
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DroneMaster
Main: Soulless Level: 492
Joined: Wed May 24, 2006 12:49 am Posts: 0 Location: On the Block...
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I personally think it just needs an increased heat weakness.
Give it -50% resists to heat, hell even -100% resists.
So an SD with a Fire Beam can screw the Urqa ship up...
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Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:23 pm |
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followerz9
Team: Rank: Councilor Main: Bizman Level: 11051 Joined: Sat Jan 01, 2005 1:57 pm Posts: 11 Location: Denver, Colorado
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They need to have much lower laser resists. Anything above 60% is too high, and maybe even 60%. Several ubers use lasers as their only defense (Sputty, Marco, Mad Scientist, Dark Curse) and most others have laser ethereal attacks. Anything player-based with the resists of that caliber are broken. I know that the IQ line is laser-resistant in general, but the player balance requirements need to be accounted for...
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Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:29 pm |
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The Voomy One
Team: Rank: Councilor Main: The Voomy One Level: 1337 Joined: Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:06 am Posts: 4137
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Quote: Just ignore Vooms posts, he likes twisting things around to make everything he dislikes look imbalanced.
Keep in mind, this is an *extremely* rare ruin
Sure it's a rare ruin but how many ships exactly have been extracted from them? I happen to know that it's very many. These ships where rare before this uni, now they are common. And compare the resists, it's MUCH better then the resists on ANY tech 20 ship I've seen (not counting panther and rhino since I dont know their resists).
They are tech 19 they shouldnt be better then any tech 20 ship.
Cyphes suggestion would be acceptable, that would still leave them with very good resists.
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Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:25 am |
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blahblah0924
Team: Rank: Councilor Main: Sylvester Level: 4093 Joined: Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:34 pm Posts: 1
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if your nerfing the damn ship please give us all aug resets. my current aug setup was designed with its resists in mind.
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Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:04 am |
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BAM5992
Main: Goz Level: 1564
Joined: Sat Dec 17, 2005 9:39 pm Posts: 83 Location: Eredar US, Gozmatic (Horde)
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80% laser resists is just nuts.
my 3200 dps reaver laser does 640 dps, just broken
and to boot, they have 50-60% of EVERYTHING else (cept heat of course)
so for the ones who say its uber rare and shoudl be left alone, it shouldent. just because somthings uber rare etc etc does NOT mean it gets to be broken
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Fri Mar 30, 2007 6:02 am |
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candyboy
Main: Ligthning Level: 1318
Joined: Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:29 pm Posts: 53 Location: Resturant EoU
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55% laser resist could do. I like the idea of having some ships that got uber laser resists, just suggesting 55% so it wount be totally broken. Giving it a -50% heat resist would give it weakness needed. The rest... idk...
Not using any of them myself, and prolly ain't gonna use one ever. I'll just keep waiting for the ubang raddie ship (hopefully something bule tech 20 since bulle got the kool raddie gear) that possible never is gonna exist.
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Fri Mar 30, 2007 6:29 am |
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BAM5992
Main: Goz Level: 1564
Joined: Sat Dec 17, 2005 9:39 pm Posts: 83 Location: Eredar US, Gozmatic (Horde)
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in my eyes it should be:
65% laser resist
45% energy
20% radiation
45% mining
45% physcial
30% surgical
0% trans (of course)
-35% heat
eh?
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Fri Mar 30, 2007 7:25 am |
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syxxpacc
Team: Rank: Main: sxp Level: 1473 Joined: Fri Feb 10, 2006 7:25 am Posts: 0
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blahblah0924 wrote: if your nerfing the damn ship please give us all aug resets. my current aug setup was designed with its resists in mind.
same, i based my aug setup on the resists as well, so if ur going to nerf those ships, at least give us our augs back, cause it just sucks to have spent like 10b+ and finding it out that after the nerf its useless
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Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:12 am |
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