I think its about time i left.

I guess as usual there wont be an aug reset...

I have to agree with Elryk here....What about us MF's? I can't say the other changes were 'unexpected'. Also, as far as SD losing the extra RoF from FA, a lot of the time Sd's hit the RoF cap anyway, plus the extra damage they get will greatly increase their DPE, and will help in a way with the lost FA firing, not to mention that a lot of SD's don't fly light fighters anyway.

Any other class cannot power it either, and do not get the HUGE damage bonus a sniper get. So long as a class gets so huge a boost in DPE, the only thing they have to do is use bigger weapon if they have spare elec. Others get ROF or MF bonus, but what is the point ? They cannot use as big weapons...

Another VERY important thing about MF and the other classes. Since MF's use multiple weapons, it is inherently more difficult to ensure all our shots hit, with tracking weapons this isn't so difficult, but with something like DWO's it is actually impossible to get maximum DPS versus smaller targets like Forgones. This is another huge disadvantage MF's have over other, single weapon combat classes.

Seems like the heavy fighters finaly is becoming the heavy fighters

Atlum if you are balancing the Fighter types besure to look at the Bule Super Sidhe, is is tech 16 and a nearly 2b extract price yet has only 10% resists. Only half of cheaper, lower tech ships.

As for the changes it looks to me like you have nerfed the wrong thing. Not that snipers needed a nerf anyway.
If you wanted to slow the snipers firing down you should have increased the rof penalty as now not only rof but all energy using systems will be effected.

You admins really paint people into a corner, as players all we can actually do is grin an bear it, or walk away. You do realise dont you that each time you nerf things some people walk.
Since the reason for nerfing stuff is "encourage" people to play for a longer time, I suspect is is counter -productive.
More than half my team have started playing other games and they play SS less than before.

i say give back the hull bonus to mf. i remember mf used to give hull and elec right?


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ooh I rembered what I actually wanted to say (after the excitement cooled down)

anyway, as I see it:

-sniper panthers are getting a x2 nerf (still the best, but by less now)
-sniper DS's are gettin a x2 nerf (depending on LF stat changes)
-sniper izers get a small nerf
-SD LF's get a small nerf, less RoF but more damage a shot + stat changes
-SD HF's get a decent beef, same RoF, more damage a shot, and "weaker" enemies (such as anyone in a LF or a sniper or both).
-MF's get 'weaker" enemies, bt nothign else. so thats kinda like a beef
-no changes on/to shmonks

As Atlum said, snipers are still the best overall damage dealers, but not by much now. so we wont be getting totally raped by sniper DS's/panthers, some of us get a fighting chance now.

I feel this is one of the best changes/balance fixes ever to come to SS

Goz, what you dont see yet, is that admins constantly nerf rather than beef... Who kills the ubers? Snipers in LF... Nerf them, you nerf the whole playerbase. Add in the fact that normal augs that ubers have are a lot better.. and you are even farther back.

I wish for once, it wasn't a constant *nerf nerf nerf* but more a *Leave be, Beef, Beef* I guess maybe my time is up, seeing as how we probably wont get an aug reset but be told "Go waste you 20b in augs that you used on your LF by using a Reset Module"

Oh well, tis the style these days.

~BD

Great, now time to find a setup to break SD and continue the cycle of nerfing in SS.

ShieldMonkey losses 20% rof if you can't se it Goz...



count me in...

i dont understand why the hell light fighter resists are going to be nerfed?? Atlum?? light fighters cant carry big shield like heavy fighters can! god.. theres a big difference between Eclipse blockade(35 size 5k shield) and PoT(100 size 11k+ shield). got my point?

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