HS... no matter what happens, drones will always be inferior in pvp... Get used to it...

yea they do pwn droners pretty well. i havnt seen the new stats on the drones yet or how they have been beefed in the defence dept.but droners are realy easy to kill pvp. thats a fact thats been around forever,but the fact still stands that jiji was used only becouse it has good tracking. iv yet to see what it looks like with the new stats but i still dont like that part of the nerf =\ a DWO has similar dps and is handy, but when you can hit every time with jiji it makes it a far better wep and for the price,rarity and nasty dpe it was just about perfect the way it was. ill have to test this some time an see how well it still works...well thanks for the extra w4 spots those are usefull. iv never seen anyone in a battle freightor before so cant say anything about that beef. but thx for spending the time admins.

A) SD jiji's only have 300-400 range, max.

B) Drones dont always shoot mags period. They use their laser too. You have to stay a perfect distance from the drone to avoid it using its laser, and only its mag. This is extremely diffucult with our "insane" thrust that we have.

And aslo, you saying that SD's running circles around their target is broken, or thats how I perceived your post. But then again, that is what SD is meant to do. How are we supposed to do anything if we cant outrun / dodge the mags/pulses being shot at us?

For instance: Me fighting 8 MF picks... If 6-7 of those pulses hit me, I'm toast. Its only 2-3 shots if my vollitile diff has failed. For a sniper, or practically any other class, this would be impossible, but SD's have speed and thrust that other classes do not.

Now back on topic: I am willing to test out the new stats on the Jiji after it is patched. After that, I will give some feed back on it.

A mercurian magcannon, titan torp, or any high tracking weapon would have the exact same effect... Should those all be nerfed too because they're effective against drones?

not all of thoes are "instant hit within range" etheral fire dmg with good DPE

Instant Hit Within Range doesnt mean anything when your fighting drones Goz, aslong as they can hit the drone...

I'm an SD and I just bought a jiji for 18 bil. I had to borrow every penny to buy it too, so now I'm 12 bil in the whole with a wep that's getting nerfed and the price will surely drop, perhaps to the point where it's not worth anything. What bothers me is you apparently don't test you new items very well before you imp them, because you feel the need for a nerf which has ruined me. My next best weapon is a LC, and since I put myself in the whole for this Jiji, I can now kill BG's and Picks easier, I was dissappointed from the beginning. I currectly have tech 18 weps so every aspect of this nerf will affect me.

I believe that when you make a mistake with a wep imp, you should refund the credits to the tune of the average going rate of the nerfed weapon.

Why do you think they were selling the Jiji?

lol... check the forums before you buy stuff

admins work like this:

they try to nerf one thing (or balance it if yo will) and they do so, in a very nice fair way for the people getting the nerf.

but they fail to realize that they screw over EVERYONE else.

the MF Ai beef was because of zwi00, I know because I was there when Jeff_L talked to us after he soloed Rm for me (long ago). they beefed the AI, harder for ubers and WAYYY harder for lowlys in w3.

same type of thing with the jiji

Well Voom said people have complained about it, so since it is warranted then I can't argue with that. From a pure pvp perspective, yeah maybe it is too good in that reguard. But why on earth do people think this is a good weapon vs. ai? Are people just bad at math? It has the dps of a dwo people. It's nice for killing little fast moving things with very little shields and that's it. A big green is not a fast moving little thing. A pick is not a fast moving little thing.

My jiji does 4k dps of heat. That's almost ok if it weren't for the fact I can do over 8k dps of energy damage with a panther paw and sustain it almost as long. An rbp would still do close to 50% more damage than my jiji and sustain almost indefinately elec wise where the jiji is considerably more draining because of the high energy per shot and much higher rate of fire. Heat resistance is lower on a lot of ai, but it sure as heck isn't THAT much lower, not by a long shot! The raw dps on the jiji is something like 228. An lc is significantly lower at 191 and has lower range on paper but when used to kite, has vastly superior effective range and is much easier to power. An rbp however is 300, smashes both of em but is resisted a bit more and definately not good kiting. When we get into tech 20 weapons now in the same league after the nerf, you have to compare it to the ukukuu quu at 416 dps which annihilates it, and the ever present titan torp+ at a whopping 752.

Any sd who uses the jiji as their primary weapon fighting AI either:

A. Is way over elec auged for non tech 20 weapons (perfectly acceptable if they plan on getting wep 20 and using the same ship).

B. Is geared specifically for killing small, fast things and doing crowd control.

or

C. Really should know better.

You are fast, nimble, and can outmaneuver most ai or kite them or circle strafe them with infinite better results if you learn how to actually *pilot* your ship and use gear that gives you better speed. That's vastly superior to sitting on a planet hoping no other ai come by within the next ten minutes as you burn down a big green because without any shield regen bonuses, even getting hit by ethereal laser U's will eventually kill you...

I can't even think of the last time I saw anyone in warp 3 killing anything with a jiji, unless it was a zebu or something...

If people complaina bout 150 damage they need sorting out

DM's , DM is a shit skill period

You admins really kno how to fuck up people weeks dont ya Jiji dosent need nerfing , If you nerf it ss will lose customers and not only casue of that cause of PvP to witch i thought id bring up

-Minch-

Jiji has been around for years... just hasn't dropped much...