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Post Changes to Jiji Quu
Tech will be increased to 20. Small nerf to damage, slightly higher elec. Tracking will also be reduced a little.

This will come in effect with the next patch.


Fri May 25, 2007 2:18 pm
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Woah...Woah...

Hold on a minute, your making THAT large of a change?

Damage and elec are enough, why are you lowering the tracking aswell??


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There are several changes, they are all small though. Elec is increased from 400 to 423...I think you all can live with that.


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Didn't think it was too bad to begin with but ok, heh.


Fri May 25, 2007 3:47 pm
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Any chance the Zobitan Beam will get beefed?

Maybe to 300 range and etherealness and full tracking?


Fri May 25, 2007 4:05 pm
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eewwww... zobitan *coughcrappy* beam

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it has about the same dps as dwo doesnt it? why nerf the damage and increase the elec ? anyhow tracking should stay the same imo..its a full tracking wep...or at least close to one..there are very few weapons with tracking that are decent like that..searing beam is the next closest and it SUCKS...you could leave the damage, increase the elec and make it T20 and it would be decent. anyhow..thats my two cents.... T20 weps are about the catagory it should be in anyhow becouse its about that class anyway. :?

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This is weird:

I was looking at the jiji stats MAGICFLAME posted in trade chat anmd I was thinking: "wow thats kinda broken"

and whadday know, it got nerfed.

meh

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i dont think this is such a good idea i mean the elec is fine but tracking and damage no.......i mean the cost of it is like 20-25bil if u buy it and if not u have to get lucky on a drop yes there is probly 30 of them in the game but still not so many that this needs to happen this is my thought but im only a noob so tech 20 is fair i mean it diserves to be

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Why nerf the damage? It only has 238 base DPS. That compared to any other tech 20 weapon is very weak, and your still nerfing it?

It would be nice if the admins told us -why- they are nerfing something for once, instead of "we're nerfing this, and ignoring the thread. Have a good day."

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The bad points of the weapon are that it has an absolutely terrible dpe of 3 to 1 already. It does the damage per second of a dwo. It has decent range and built in tracking, is ethereal, and is heat based, and is a drop from iq'bana queen, a non-trivial boss at that . Those are significantly nice features, *especially for pvp*, but with such pathetic bases stats as is considering the difficulty to obtain the weapon... Why nerf it?

It's nice for a few situations, but it's hardly a game breaking weapon. This makes no sense to me whatsoever.

And Goz, what are you thinking? Do you have any idea how much elec it takes to power a jiji? Sniper cannot possibly aug enough firing to really make it do significant dps without sacrificing every single other stat. Speed demon can't possibly get a large enough elec regen and damage bonus to make it truly hurt either.

So you've gone from taking a decent tech 17 weapon with some specialized uses, and turning it into possibly one of the worst tech 20 weapon there is aside from the titanium shredder.

I have a jiji and I use it for all of 3 things.

1. farming noob dgs, because i'm too lazy to aim when killing things like goldenboys and space blue alphas.

2. killing the little spawns in iq'bana for crowd control. however I never perform this job really because I have an ukukuu qu, and my dps is generally much more valuable on iq'bana queen, not to mention the fact a sniper with a titan torp does just fine, and probably does it better!

3. pvping against *one* ship, the iq'bana tech 19 ukuks that the snipers use. It works well there but *only* because they have massive heat vulnerability, and being speed demon makes any heat diffusers they may have pop very fast. Against an enemy deathstriker, the jiji is just the icing on the cake, the real damage is done with merc disints and panther paws.

I want to know why the developers think this is necessary. While the changes above don't affect me in any way really as I *rarely* use it for anything truly serious... Why? There are many more broken things in the game besides this weapon.

With every change that is made I become more alienated and more alienated with what you guys are thinking and where you are going... So please, help us by relating the thoughts behind this change. Thank you.


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skyfyre wrote:
The bad points of the weapon are that it has an absolutely terrible dpe of 3 to 1 already. It does the damage per second of a dwo. It has decent range and built in tracking, is ethereal, and is heat based, and is a drop from iq'bana queen, a non-trivial boss at that . Those are significantly nice features, *especially for pvp*, but with such pathetic bases stats as is considering the difficulty to obtain the weapon... Why nerf it?

It's nice for a few situations, but it's hardly a game breaking weapon. This makes no sense to me whatsoever.

And Goz, what are you thinking? Do you have any idea how much elec it takes to power a jiji? Sniper cannot possibly aug enough firing to really make it do significant dps without sacrificing every single other stat. Speed demon can't possibly get a large enough elec regen and damage bonus to make it truly hurt either.

So you've gone from taking a decent tech 17 weapon with some specialized uses, and turning it into possibly one of the worst tech 20 weapon there is aside from the titanium shredder.

I have a jiji and I use it for all of 3 things.

1. farming noob dgs, because i'm too lazy to aim when killing things like goldenboys and space blue alphas.

2. killing the little spawns in iq'bana for crowd control. however I never perform this job really because I have an ukukuu qu, and my dps is generally much more valuable on iq'bana queen, not to mention the fact a sniper with a titan torp does just fine, and probably does it better!

3. pvping against *one* ship, the iq'bana tech 19 ukuks that the snipers use. It works well there but *only* because they have massive heat vulnerability, and being speed demon makes any heat diffusers they may have pop very fast. Against an enemy deathstriker, the jiji is just the icing on the cake, the real damage is done with merc disints and panther paws.

I want to know why the developers think this is necessary. While the changes above don't affect me in any way really as I *rarely* use it for anything truly serious... Why? There are many more broken things in the game besides this weapon.

With every change that is made I become more alienated and more alienated with what you guys are thinking and where you are going... So please, help us by relating the thoughts behind this change. Thank you.






enouf said i think its realy rediculas its probly the best tech 17 weapon but now that its tech 20 why not put it in the ai bases for sell now its gonna suck so bad as a tech 20 weapon


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Want to know why SS doesnt have much of a longstanding player core? This is that exact reason.

I'm not even going to bother going into why this is a stupid fucking idea, it seems I just waste my breathe. Needless to say it was some pants members who cried for this change, most likely because the high members of the opposition uses Jijis as their main PvP weap?

lol, the bias from Admins is just becoming ridiculous, I'm sorry to say...

zwi00 and Scar3face exploit for months, Merc Toxic and traders warn about this, report things being done that could not possibly happen, and we are ignored, and the DAY AFTER our War ends with them, Bizman says something and Boom, they are banned.

A few Unis ago somebody on pants lost their building DS in massive rollbacks when the 24h reset was announced, and it was given back to them, we lose tens of billions in a war on exploiters and we dont see a credit. Who are you to assume the base building the DS wouldnt have been killed before the reset, but say that you cant tell what would happen if zwi wasnt involved?

Now you nerf DS right after Merc Traders and Toxic have gotten the majority of their higher-ups the ships, and now, the main weapon that was the driving force of the dozens of bana runs we did last uni is nerfed, as it is the main weapon we use in PvP.


Fucking hilarious. This bullshit continues to astound me, keep it up and keep making me backpeddal in progress, its fan-fucking-tastic.

Want something to Nerf? TT+, Armada Drones, DM Specs and Expertises, hell DM in general need a massive nerf, Nerf Sup Combis. But Jiji which has MAYBE 2 uses in the entire game? Give me a fucking break.

This is the reason SS doesnt have a substantial longstanding community as I said, and if this bullshit doesn't change, the reason why it never will.

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well put...

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well, the damage was ok, I guess they thought it was broken cuz of the setups people had.

yes I agree, the elec is insane, I would have to have a good 1800 elec regen to power it forever :?

I think it was because of the tracking and range, (and not to mention its 4d). People being able to hit others at 700 distance away thru obstructions was broken, not the damage/dpe

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