Okay, Jack, and all you stupid ass toxic noobs...this is for you.
The guardian is nearly impossible even with the drones, I had to use uber tweaks and a VERY specialized ship. I get shot maybe 4-5 times during the kill of the guard, he does 40k a shot (roughly) to my thatch with volatile laser diffusers, and with his tweak I get 150k shields in my normally 800k shields thatch. If you admins ever wanted him to be killed why in the hell did you make his tweak so uber AND effect the healers? Every time I kill it I almost die, even WITH the mobile pest drones.

Now, I would like to see the shield debuff on his WEAPON NOT HIS FUCKING SHIP so that only the person getting hit is effected, wich would make it possible but still hard.
Also, why in the hell does it take 2-3 BTs to take him down when his drops are so lame? You can kill MS with 2 BTs and get MS brains, APP wands, APP ward, and exp augs. His regen is way too uber for the drops he has.

My BT setup is 5 good combo adv good rage (I should have done 6 good combo, but I made it before they beefed the guardian). Most others have a 6 good combo thatch. Even with upwards of 900k shields, and insane DPS they fail to come close to being able to kill it. It takes me, and two other BTs augged similar to mine to break his regen without tweaks, wich is wrong IMO.

Also, next time you nerf something liek this, PLEASE ask the peoeple who are doing it instead of the ones whining before you nerf it.

well jack now that i think bout it , its VERY VERY clear who u are....
Trev

I can kite Guardian in virtually any LF using Volis with a Merc Mag or TT+, build aggro, then bring him around to the sun again to be killed by BTs. Stop crying about losing the ability to do him solo with drones. And phil, if you ever want to fight a "toxic noob" one on one, let me know, I'd gladly take your gear.



Lawl, owned

With him doing 40k a shot and having ~10k range?

With healers on me, yes, and try it in a shield/hull/aggro augged Ukuk (Zerker Exp, 1 Heph+, 2 Exc might work (fairly cheap too) well enough with Merc Mag), and kite him around for a few min prior to bringing him to sun to be killed.

Another suggestion related: We need more Aggro tweaks, both +Aggro and -Aggro, maybe lyceum built?

Edit: its also alot less than 40k damage per hit, last I remembered when I kited him with my Ukuk, it was closer to 16k per hit with Volis on.

Issue number one: Healers get the negative shield tweak too, and are therefore useless



Issues number two and three: Zerker expertise is tech 20, and that still would have nowhere near enough shields. I suggest you stick a volitile on that DS of yours, and go and shoot him, then come back and suggest things.

hmmm zerker expertise tech 20, uku tech 19

to add to issues number 1 the aura is a littile over 5.1k range with its - tweak

PWNED

Still, your general concept of doing it is flawed.

I wish I could put tech 20 augs on my ukuk

~BD

Wanna like take this out of the Dev Forum guy's, your personal in game spats ain't really needed here.

Discuss it but don't resort to being children.

Before shooting guardian:



After being hit twice by guardian:


Nuff said? I think so.

That's one shot.

You look pretty owned to me.

plz answer this how did u put a zerker expertise on your uku?

Thats two shots, Leroy, ill take 1 shot now and post it as well, to make you happy.

If the guardian was a player, and you shot it with a merc mag, they would laugh at you.

It still cannot be done now, the guardian CANNOT be killed until something is changed now.