What I'm looking at so far is a base 1% chance to crit, with another 1% chance in an ambush situation and all the increases to crit chance get added in linearly. Then that percent gets divided by (1 + crit resistance) of the target ship for the final chance.

In the case of a crit, there will be +50% damage, modified by the crit power stat, so a seer with +100% crit damage, will do critical hits of 100% instead of 50% (.50 * 1 + 1.00 = 100%).

The negative side effects last for 3 seconds divided by (1 + crit resistance). I am probably going to also double this and multiply by the hulls resistance to that damage type.

A seer with +100% chance to crit in a shadow ambush and +100% critical hit power will in essence do +100% damage every time he ambushes, plus the negative side effects of his damage type. I think this is pretty good, but not overpowering SD, Sniper, or Berserker.

I don't know yet if weapons with multiple bullets will have separate crit rolls for each bullet or just one roll that determines the status of all the bullets.

an all dmg seer DS will

1) not be seen, so who needs sheilds?
2) do x2 dmg every time from skill alonne, no negatives like range or recoil
3) side affect

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not every time, goz you foo'. there's just a 2 times damage from the 1% chance critical hit

Except seers get a guaranteed crit if they aren't visible at the time of firing the weapon.

Which is one shot every 3 or 4 seconds, and that get negated totally if the other people can see you.

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uber seer

I still think its a bit much, b-coz of the side effects

Seer: +100% Damage, from Stealth

Sniper: +140%-160% Damage, when firing

The tweak effects may make seer interesting, but as we are still in the current stituation where a Snipers 'hits' do more damage than a Seer's 'crits', I think Seer may be primarily a PvP character, or used for its radar.

Doesnt a sniper have to be still on the spot for that extra 20%? Imo,seer is goign to be the BEST class in the game for PVAI.

no sheild
no speed
no hull
no dmg (aside from crit hit) WHEN MAXED OUT
no RoF
no resists

only good in expensive ships with expensive gear

still.......

BEST might be a strong word.

Alot depends on what sort of content your looking at. The Seer's stealth will be quite advantageous.. one of the things it will having going for it, like Sniper, is the ability to avoid the many-on-one fight (in large part).

Still, its worth noting that even while moving, the sniper will do 20% more damage every time he pulls the trigger than the seer will when doing his super-special-stealth attack.. and this is the sort of situation where the seer's higher ROF wont really enter into it, due to the fact that the Seer only gets his bonus on that stealth shot (of which he only gets one).

For stealth PvAI, the seer looks to be solid, but I'm going to say of the two stealth classes, the sniper will be the better 'killer' of the two.

Of course, the MFer and the SD will still beat both in DPS and (according to my calculations, based on gear in game) DpE... but given the just-plain-silly lethality of some endgame AI (cough cough MF REAVERS cough) that stealth may keep them competitive, at least in the soloing context, due (as noted above) to their ability to avoid the many on one fight.

its XXXX x2

so each shot gets crit hit