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Main: Tengu
Level: 866 Joined: Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:47 pm Posts: 0 Location: With Stupid |
 Ok, but a level 2000+ tech 12 CA base is just asking to get killed. Because they would need to get another alt to level 2000+ to have it protected by a SM base.
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| Sun Nov 11, 2007 4:19 pm |
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 Rank: Director Main: goldstar-stations Level: 6543 Joined: Sun Nov 13, 2005 12:54 pm Posts: 1174 |
the whole idea behind making you use more lvls is that you dont drop a shitty argo base..and you dont hide behind pvp resttrictions.
its easy to stay safe..dont go to war. or dont build bad bases. or build a gal that works well enough together to be safe from the likes of BTs. _________________ 
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| Sun Nov 11, 2007 4:28 pm |
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 Rank: Director Main: HAL 9000 Level: 1002 Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2004 11:00 pm Posts: 1180 |
25866 wrote: Ok, but a level 2000+ tech 12 CA base is just asking to get killed. Because they would need to get another alt to level 2000+ to have it protected by a SM base. A level 2000 tech 12 SM base is just asking to get killed as well. If you have enemies and you want your bases to survive, BUILD THEM TO SURVIVE. Use tech 18+ base kits and equip them with good gear and augmenters. Even a non-mastery Achilles base is going to be difficult to kill if built properly, especially if you have other well built bases in the galaxy to assist it during an attack. If you can't afford to build bases that don't suck, then do your best not to make enemies with someone who can kill them. Its not rocket science. |
| Sun Nov 11, 2007 4:31 pm |
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Main: Tengu
Level: 866 Joined: Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:47 pm Posts: 0 Location: With Stupid |
My original question was "Is SM going to be needed to build bases past tech 12?" If it is needed CA's and EE's are just asking to get their bases killed if they can't build bases past tech 12.
My previous point was just an example. Unless CA/EE/SM aren't going to be mutually exclusive. Haven't had time to look on test lately. |
| Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:20 pm |
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Rank: Director Main: HAL 9000 Level: 1002 Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2004 11:00 pm Posts: 1180 |
As far as I know, there are only a handful of base kits that actually require SM to lay them, and those are the "Complicated" base kits - more of a convenience than anything else.
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| Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:53 pm |
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Main: Tengu
Level: 866 Joined: Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:47 pm Posts: 0 Location: With Stupid |
Ah, never mind. I kept thinking of the upgrades.
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| Sun Nov 11, 2007 6:05 pm |
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 Rank: Director Main: Elryk Level: 4472 Joined: Sat Oct 15, 2005 12:34 am Posts: 621 |
HAL wrote: This is what the descriptions say on the current build, though I haven't checked for the actual values. While the specific numbers might be different, these are likely to be the general stats and ratios of what the new trade skills will have. Merchant Fleet Master Trading slaves get +2% to most stats, +10% capacity, and +10% to shields Station Mastery Stations get +4% shield, energy, damage, shield recharge, energy recharge, capacity, tracking, firing rate, radar, range, and cloaking. Note: I think this is supposed to apply to permanent drones as well, though I'm not positive. Extraction Expert Expert at harvesting and mineral extraction. (+4.5% to bases hull space, +5% rate of extraction) Colonial Administration Efficiency Expert. (+4% suitability on your colonies) I thought I remembered seeing a post somewhere that jeff made concerning base skill bonuses. It said that station masters would get +3% to base stats, and EE and CA would get +2% to base stats. I cant remember where the post was and I was unable to find it. The 4% you seen on station master makes sense considering jeff said he was going to beef base strength by 33%, making station mastery 4%, and EE and CA +3.66% per lvl to base stats. Like I said, I was unable to find the post, or I would have quoted it here for verification. Just figured I'd pass along the info I thought I remembered correctly so you could check into it. |
| Sun Nov 11, 2007 6:08 pm |
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 Rank: Director Main: Jeff_L Level: 1969 Joined: Wed Mar 23, 2005 2:21 am Posts: 3894 Location: Santa Clara, CA |
The missions to get all of the trade skills up to level 30 have been added to Free Market on test, and their stats have been beefed as promised, though I haven't built a new test client, so the old descriptions are still what you will see.
And to answer a previous question, trade skills have no requirements other than character level. _________________ For support, please create a support ticket here and I will get back to you as soon as possible. About Star Sonata. |
| Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:12 am |
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 Rank: Officer Main: Power Player Level: 2607 Joined: Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:35 am Posts: 107 Location: GETTING EVEN MORE POWER! |
looks good
 bases will be alot mroe powerful aswell with the skill
one side note that isnt really related to this, the TaF i see is still asking for hte old MF skill which is getting worrying with it beign this close to the new uni, but the -10% in elec tempering is nice _________________  
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| Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:42 am |
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 Rank: Officer Main: mrwoo Level: 8291 Joined: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:39 am Posts: 203 Location: south of old blighty (england) |
HAL wrote: This is what the descriptions say on the current build, though I haven't checked for the actual values. While the specific numbers might be different, these are likely to be the general stats and ratios of what the new trade skills will have. Merchant Fleet Master Trading slaves get +2% to most stats, +10% capacity, and +10% to shields Station Mastery Stations get +4% shield, energy, damage, shield recharge, energy recharge, capacity, tracking, firing rate, radar, range, and cloaking. Note: I think this is supposed to apply to permanent drones as well, though I'm not positive. Extraction Expert Expert at harvesting and mineral extraction. (+4.5% to bases hull space, +5% rate of extraction) Colonial Administration Efficiency Expert. (+4% suitability on your colonies) didnt think merchant fleet is in the new skill wish it was |
| Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:41 pm |
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 Rank: Main: Nurokourri Level: 5049 Joined: Sat Aug 21, 2004 6:48 pm Posts: 1056 |
I have Fleet Master from Free Market on test, so I don't know what you are talking about MYTER. Its a trade skill now, and a damned good one for slaves transporting commodities to AI stations or colonies.
Now all I would like is to be able to get higher levels of Programming to use with it. _________________ Fucking loot... |
| Wed Nov 14, 2007 3:26 pm |
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Rank: Officer Main: Shock Commander Level: 8394 Joined: Thu Sep 15, 2005 1:56 pm Posts: 249 Location: deep, deep, very deep in space |
Woot good job jeff everything look's nice and balanced on test server i love what you have done and i think its all good .
three cheer's for jeff and the other admins  _________________ bobbyj wrote: Reincarnation u cant go 2 heaven or hell u have another chance 2 fuck up ur life http://www.teamunderdawgs.webs.com/ |
| Wed Nov 14, 2007 3:34 pm |
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