The vast majority of weapons won't have knock back effects on them, so if you are getting knocked around like a coconut in a hurricane chances are its because your getting pwned by a boss. And if someone uses a faranji flower to figure out where a Seer is coming from, I think thats a valid tactic considering their options before pretty much amounted to waiting to take it up the rear.

You will need drones to be more or less immune too. Also you will need to make base weapons have a lower chance of hitting. Anyone who has ever fought 10 MF picks or jumped in a gal with mastery anni bases will know what I mean.

I can name three. Faranji Flower, Blosom, and Paragon.

then you have your spinning Zerker with 5 excomms, or with abstructors

oh look, everything that has 5+ bullets work like excomm. that means the full cata family of mid tech weps too.

O.O FC can annihilate seers too. /me pulls out his Radiation Cone and smites all seers and snipers in colo.

well space is 3d indeed so we can assume that bullets go above or under ship that is invisible to shooter, how about that?

The fact that space is 3D doesnt mean that all bullets should go above or under, some of them would hit the target.

True. However, according to you guys : This is a game that does not mirror how reality works.

Also : Just as you say, bullets that miss my ship might miss that of my friend. But that would depend on the distances between myself, my friend, and the shooter, as well as a sizable % miss chance on my friend too, based off those distances.

my head hurts. cant we keep it the way it was? i dont want to last 5 seconds in bana due to 100k bank.

Bring a Monk,

Don't bring a big ship,

Do bana on an alt,

Don't do bana.

Simple...


Kanga

but i go everywhere in my capships.

and besides, how do i get w20 in my capship if i dont go on bana runs? and no, i refuse to buy the things.

To stop pip from bitching, I will move my posts from the most recent thread involving this to this rather old one.





Seriously, there is no point at all in adding this feature, and it will completely change the game, moreso than the actual rebalance. You will need to do another, larger rebalance just to try and make this remotely stable.

Too many changes Hal

Get the rebalance in, get it working and then see if these knockbacks and "hit any enemy" thing is needed.

I forsee things not working as predicted and then cried of "exploit" comming from all directions. The is certainly scope for that.

Thorax/torpedo shouldn't impact secondary targets unless they are actually armed.



Sounds good to me, if you can actually kill them this way more power to you.



I am concerned about the fate of fighters and missiles, I'm still not sure what to do about them, perhaps they should be immune to secondary fire (along with escape pods) because they are so small.



AI will take this into account when deciding who to attack and with what weapon. Almost all bosses have ethereal lasers as far as I know, if you can get this strategy to work in some situations then good for you.



I don't see a problem with that.



I'm not sure how this renders high damage, high rof weapons useless.



Again I am concerned about this, similar to the problem with fighters.



I would call that strategy, not exploit.



I think I addressed this above already.



Yes it does mean a lot, in fact more so than it did before because if you get aggro and put someone who shouldn't be in the line of fire into it by moving out of position, you just killed them.



Mass low tech slaves have always been a problem, we have considered some ideas to reduce their effectiveness, however for now we will just leave them be because managing them is a huge pain in the ass.



You might as well just use envelopes, but the important point is that a pest drone would only absorb at most 1 shot whereas before an AI would fire off volleys at the drone while the bullets travelled, then turn to aim for the next one, etc.



Again managing them will be a huge pain in the ass.



Obviously bullets won't hit stasis ships.



Everything is getting rebalanced anyways, wait and see how difficult (or not) it will be.



Same as above, wait for UZ bosses to be rebalanced before assuming anything about them.



Not going to happen, you might want to actually try these exploits on the test server before assuming they are possible. For a non ethereal healing weapon to hit something other than the intended target, that ship has to be a friend, not an enemy. NPC AI can never be friends with players, i.e. in the same team or squad.



The whole point of doing this during the rebalance is so that we can rebalance everything at once.

By "no point", I mean not benificial to the game in any way. It would be like suddenly announcing that you now have to fly around planets, or else you crash into them and die. No reason to do it, just seemed fun to you, and the hell with the playerbase.

Besides that, all the changes this will bring will probs lead to a new rebalance. Mostly just pissed off because my newly made FC main is now fucked over AGAIN, he has high-damage slaves with somewhat crappy shields (Only about 30k with a defensive combat bot), and a dreadnought that is resist augged. I have to rush to grab aggro asap, to stop the AI from pwning my slaves, either before I can heal them or by outdoing my HPS. Now, it doesn't matter, since slaves are too damned stupid to dodge. One flies between me and an MF pick or a swarm of pretty much whatever the hell AI I am fighting, and it dies. Not fun.

Besides that, DMs will have the same problems, and any other FCs that don't use capital ships.

As was said before, this was announced long ago and has been on test for several months. If you played at all on test you would see that its not that big of a deal.

HAL it is obvious that you are going to implement these changes. I only hope u get the balance right


New question: I have nearly 500k of "FunkY Furniture" produced by the Iquea Workshop (which is built from a bp). The furniture takes 2 bobs and some cash so 500k is worth about 1b in commod prices alone. It was promised to be implemented as a colony commod but was later defered by Jeff. My question is: Is there any plan to make the items usable?

Currently you cannot even sell them.
I did hear a rumour that they were to be used in the new terraforming projects to be implemented this reset?