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Post Nice little tweak
So tonight we figured out a little tweak that causes the server to run roughly 10x faster than it does now. One of those things that is totally not obvious, but in hind sight seems like it should have been.

So... do we want rof cap to be 10x more and responsiveness to jumping and docking 10x more, or the uni 10x bigger, or some combination? (Though we will likely add in some kind of artificial rof cap so people don't get client lag from too many bullets.)

I think it would be fun to make the next uni 2 or 3 times bigger by adding more layers, what do you guys think?

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there is a point where it becomes difficult to get any higher ROF. Any chance we could get some input from high end SD's to see what that is, then set the hard cap around there?

EDIT: I just did some little calculations, it seems like about the fastest you could fire under all but the most absolutely extreme circumstances is about 25 shots per second. So 30 frames per second would be about right, i believe.

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It's not a facepalm, it's actually quite an elegant little trick, and the implications are wonderful.

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Post Re: Nice little tweak
The facepalm was just that you realized this now, rather than earlier :P

I mean, you spend loads of time trying to make the server go faster, all that effort, and then you realize "oh, we can make the server run 10x faster with this little trick!"

:lol:

Thats what the facepalm was for. :P

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Hmm...
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Post Re: Nice little tweak
Hahah, nice!

Yeah I wouldn't recommend upping the RoF cap, I think being able to fire 10 times a second is fine as it is...new layers would be cool though, maybe content devs could use this and put in warp navigation 5 perhaps?

Responsiveness is what I'd like to see more than anything really...but then again, I wouldn't recommend using all of this new found speed up straight away, but making it available as a buffer when the server load is especially high such as in peak times or uni resets...but then you guys probably already know that, so meh. :P


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Yeah, this is going to make things way more responsive. Jey already has a test server running the uni from right before the reset full of bases and trading slaves 9x faster than before, and the current uni is running more than 10x faster. Hopefully we can get this live in the next patch. This is a great day for Star Sonata! =)

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Can we have this then? Voomy said it was a good one.

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Post Re: Nice little tweak
Sounds lovely. I think a nice mixture would be the best.

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A mixture of 2x more responsive, and 5x bigger uni would be epic. :P

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Amazon EC2 has a High-Memory Quadruple Extra Large Instance that we could get with 68 gb of memory. That one would have enough memory to grow the universe by 15x without needing to even implement any kind of sharding. Our scaling problems for the foreseeable future have just been magically vanished. We can now scale up to about 18k p2p's I think before we have to implement sharding. Time to start advertising again.

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Jeff man go in the SS IRC. Seriously, should be in there when something like this goes down. :P

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Post Re: Nice little tweak
jeff great news and congrats on the find, give us some more space pls, the rof cap is totally fine, pointless having more as u cant power it anyway.

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Post Re: Nice little tweak
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jeff great news and congrats on the find, give us some more space pls, the rof cap is totally fine, pointless having more as u cant power it anyway.


"If you can power your weapons, you aren't doing enough DPS"

Hardcapping RoF at 15 per second would be good, I think.

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Post Re: Nice little tweak
Would this increased server speed make it possible to extend the range cap beyond 10k without massive desync of the bullets? That would be a nice use for some of the new performance.

Now, for the big one: Will it finally be possible to use some of the extra performance to lift the current account base slot restrictions? I'd love to see a bigger uni AND have the ability to use the base slots from all of my alts, or at least a larger percentage of them.

Increasing the Rof cap may actually cause a balance issue. It's only certain classes and setups that can even approach the current limits, and the increase would make them much more powerful while not really benefitting other classes at all.

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Post Re: Nice little tweak
i vote for :
wild space 1,5x bigger
2 more layers like perilous but worse

rof cap at 30Hz

responsiveness increased as much as possible


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