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Add a right-click option to destroy single augmenters?
Poll ended at Wed Nov 23, 2011 4:46 am
Yes 87%  87%  [ 118 ]
No 10%  10%  [ 14 ]
Undecided 2%  2%  [ 3 ]
Total votes : 135

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Set a time duration between destruction of augs and i'll be happy about it :p

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Tue Sep 06, 2011 5:19 pm
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Just a thought for the people saying NO, Maybe allow only a certain amount per uni ? Though i see no problem at all with the idea and it not having a lvl cap.

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Just allow people to blow up individual augs.

Remove the Aug reset items. Problem solved.

Augs are still permanent, and thought needs to be made about what augs are going to be used, but it creates a system where there will ALWAYS be a demand for more augs, because people can patchwork their ship and increase its power as they go along.

Less up front cost, more over time cost. This leads to people actually playing the game in order to get better, instead of just waiting.

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ok the main statement off all this that boositng single augs accelerates the aug use and therfore turnover and is good for the economy, so why the hack u all started now with the "restricted amount per uni" and "remove the aug removal mission" or "set timer between aug destruction" shit ?

seriosly its either not related or directly contradicting the idea the removal of single augs has, so what the fuck ??


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TheKC wrote:
ok the main statement off all this that boositng single augs accelerates the aug use and therfore turnover and is good for the economy, so why the hack u all started now with the "restricted amount per uni" and "remove the aug removal mission" or "set timer between aug destruction" shit ?

seriosly its either not related or directly contradicting the idea the removal of single augs has, so what the fuck ??


not true.
when you use aug removal
it destroys 4 augs
so theres demand for 4 more augs

destroy 1 aug
demand for 1 new aug.

means less augs are used, so there's a surplus
but since SS markets dont fluctuate according to market factors, prices wouldnt drop sufficiently enough to offset the deflation of item value
which is bad enough as it is because we already have an inflated currency

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My Idea isn't contradicting anything.

JeffL wants to allow people to remove a single augmenter at a time to make room on their ship for new ones (For new players at least).

If you allow that, whats the reason for having the Reboot Modules?

By allowing people to simply destroy the augmenters they have on their ship one at a time, you remove the need for Reboot Modules. You also make it EASIER for people to justify buying new augs.

Many people here would certainly begin upgrading their ships asap if they could pinpoint 1 or 2 augs they wanted to remove at a time.

If they didn't want to DESTROY the augs, they could use the reset missions. The situation is still the same, the process is slightly different. The outcome is MUCH more flexible and promotes organic growth in the setups of peoples ships.


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TheKC wrote:
ok the main statement off all this that boositng single augs accelerates the aug use and therfore turnover and is good for the economy, so why the hack u all started now with the "restricted amount per uni" and "remove the aug removal mission" or "set timer between aug destruction" shit ?

seriosly its either not related or directly contradicting the idea the removal of single augs has, so what the fuck ??


not true.
when you use aug removal
it destroys 4 augs
so theres demand for 4 more augs

destroy 1 aug
demand for 1 new aug.
hurr durr?


Here's the thing though. How many people ACTUALLY are willing to destroy 4 augs? Almost no one. People aren't as rich as you seem to want them to be. At the moment things are so fucking expensive for the low end player, if you don't build colonies your not to be able to afford anything. There's too much money floating around, so people can demand more because others have the money for it.

I'll "Garentee" you that if you allow people to pick certain augs to destroy at a time, you will see a noticeable increase in the number of augs purchased, and the turnover rate of the augs. And the side effect will be aug prices increasing... :/

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MasterTrader wrote:

I'll "Garentee" you that if you allow people to pick certain augs to destroy at a time, you will see a noticeable increase in the number of augs purchased, and the turnover rate of the augs. And the side effect will be aug prices increasing... :/


In the short term

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I agree with Hober Mallow.

Implement!


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Neba wrote:

not true.
when you use aug removal
it destroys 4 augs
so theres demand for 4 more augs

destroy 1 aug
demand for 1 new aug.

means less augs are used, so there's a surplus
but since SS markets dont fluctuate according to market factors, prices wouldnt drop sufficiently enough to offset the deflation of item value
which is bad enough as it is because we already have an inflated currency


Since when is do market factors have no effect on the SS markets? Adding Ada to FM in a simple example of this. You will have to think of some other reason to back up your claim.

People like to complain about inflation in SS but I don't see it. The following is a list of high-end items whose price has dropped over the past year.

Combined Aspect Augs
Zeus+ Aug
Albatross Aug
Qa Aug
Nate's Emblem
Mad Thorax
Jiji Qu
Sweeney T
Dementium

Sure, some stuff has risen in price but natural market fluctuations tend to do that.

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Neba wrote:
TheKC wrote:
ok the main statement off all this that boositng single augs accelerates the aug use and therfore turnover and is good for the economy, so why the hack u all started now with the "restricted amount per uni" and "remove the aug removal mission" or "set timer between aug destruction" shit ?

seriosly its either not related or directly contradicting the idea the removal of single augs has, so what the fuck ??


not true.
when you use aug removal
it destroys 4 augs
so theres demand for 4 more augs

destroy 1 aug
demand for 1 new aug.

means less augs are used, so there's a surplus
but since SS markets dont fluctuate according to market factors, prices wouldnt drop sufficiently enough to offset the deflation of item value
which is bad enough as it is because we already have an inflated currency


what a naive fallacy , especially since this topic was chewed threw here already.. but hey time for some obviose sarcasm (i just state it here so you get it)
if this would hold true.. lets give all ships double amount of aug slots, that woudl double the amount of augs needed when reseting!! -- if you understand the deeper sarcasm in this, u might get how stupid your reply was.


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Post Re: Poll on augmenter destruction
The point is that you'd upgrade more often.

Say I'm a Shrimp Zerker. My aug setup is Athena, Athena, Ares, Pyrite.

I don't have the money for doing Shrimp+, augged Ath+, Ath+, Ares+, Golden.

So, as I get money, I blow off augs that I can upgrade, and upgrade the ship when I can. And, then, I blast Prince in a Shrimp+(Oddly enough theres still a Shrimp+ zerk that does UZ runs).

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Shrimp+ is god-like.

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With endgame shield monks I could definitely see a Shrimp+ doing ok in UZ.

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Lol, I mined a bil in kendalite once. It took me like 36 hours. I felt so epic about that. I did it at like level 90 or so.

I mined keys in liberty to buy my first HR+

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Put it in already!


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