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Post Re: Easter Patch 03/04/12 ~ Discussion + 4/4/12 Content patch
...I'm actually kinda confused as who's trolling who, here. Every one of my responses to this topic has contained nothing but what I honestly believe, or believed at the time. I'm really trying hard to be reasonable.

But you accuse me of not being a gunner and being a troll. All's fair, but this is starting to become tiresome.

EDIT: On a side note, you should have seen me BEFORE they added the inbuilt engine. Having to fit in a lion thruster on top of my other gear was...amusing.

EDIT2: I feel I should also mention that that was also before the fleet focus expanders were added...

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Wait. 2 of your augs were T16 and you got ~1483 hull?

Jesus Christ you were using Caly, Ath, Ares, weren't you?

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Wait. 2 of your augs were T16 and you got ~1483 hull?

Jesus Christ you were using Caly, Ath, Ares, weren't you?



He's already admitted he was using an AoG.

Which makes the whole setup weird.

He's also carrying multiple GG, so I suspect this is an old char brought out retirement.


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AoG Hibernation Ares+.

I was contemplating using AoG, Hibernation, Greener before the beef, so it's not too bad.

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Griffin wrote:
AoG Hibernation Ares+.

I was contemplating using AoG, Hibernation, Greener before the beef, so it's not too bad.




Wrong: no other aug added hull, and he didn't use missiles.


It's just not a viable setup as a gunner. I mean, you can do it, but it's just not logical, effective or even sane.

Oh, and again: he's claiming it cost no money, but he shoved an AoG on there. I'd believe it if it was a GMast, but not a rare Maus aug.


/derail over.


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Says you. Actually, I do use missiles, I just keep them in reserve for tense situations. I'd rather not throw money at my enemies if I don't have to.

I'm sorry if the way I play doesn't fit with your image of what gunner should be, but it works for me, and I believe that changes should be made to make the game assessible to ALL players, not just the conformists. As just about anyone can tell you, I am not a conformist, but I still have fun playing the way I do, so I think that it can only be a good thing!

I think that the majority of what you've done has been great!

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Says you. Actually, I do use missiles, I just keep them in reserve for tense situations. I'd rather not throw money at my enemies if I don't have to.

I'm sorry if the way I play doesn't fit with your image of what gunner should be, but it works for me, and I believe that changes should be made to make the game assessible to ALL players, not just the conformists. As just about anyone can tell you, I am not a conformist, but I still have fun playing the way I do, so I think that it can only be a good thing!

I think that the majority of what you've done has been great!



If I'm attempting to upgrade a class, and the majority of the nay-sayers are playing in a fashion I understand, then I can take their position, amalgamate it and then produce a synthesis that everyone loves.

You're an outlier, squawking loudly, and even having seen your setup, there's no logic to it.

And yes, I'll take the time to investigate & examine and otherwise attempt to balance for all play styles... but yours, just isn't sensible. You're playing a PBF gunner as a zerker ~ which won't work unless you have a pet ShM.


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Anyway...

Are we any closer to a Gunner skills beef? It would help balance gear.

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I really don't know what to say anymore, Aurora. I play, it works, I've never really though about how. I'm seriously not trying to sabotage anyone, I just don't want the way I play(and enjoy) to be destroyed.

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I really don't know what to say anymore, Aurora. I play, it works, I've never really though about how. I'm seriously not trying to sabotage anyone, I just don't want the way I play(and enjoy) to be destroyed.



I've rescinded a lot of the changes for next patch:

PBF speed 65, 750%+ Bank / Energy, +25% thrust, +7% crits.

Next patch you won't be able to use the travelling fields on PBFs though, since eager-beavers like Griffin will break things if you can.

That's the best I can do: I'll preserve your play style, but I truly urge you to talk to other gunners to see some other possibilities.


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Anyway...

Are we any closer to a Gunner skills beef? It would help balance gear.



Jeff is hashing over a thread in admin forums at this moment on Gunner / Sniper beefs. Sniper is being discussed atm, but be satisfied that I'll add gunner+ points.


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Are Bunny Legs bugged? They kind of blow.

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now why the fuck is sniper getting a beef?

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kane! shush!

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Post Re: Easter Patch 03/04/12 ~ Discussion + 4/4/12 Content patch
Chaosking3 wrote:
Are Bunny Legs bugged? They kind of blow.


They aren't that bad for a T20 hybrid engine. The Bunny Fur is pretty neat.


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Not sure what niche it fills. A Grape Influence is better.

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