Can you take a look at the existing base overloadres as well? Some of them are pretty useless atm.

As I tried to point out, the real issue is the tug-o-war scenario where the defenders try to isolate one of the attackers bases.

It isn't a bad thing, it just seems like the developer team doesn't seem to grasp the situation and manage to address the core issues, if this is their proposed fix to improve BvB.

Some good thoughts in there! I agree with playerbase stuff not being useable on bases and also with the attackers being unable to tractor unattached stations and drones. Just seems like a logical step to me since, like you said, it requires the defending party to be actively online in order for their galaxy to survive which is a bad design. People shouldn't be required to be online at a certain point in time for their gal to stand a chance to survive.

However, I would actually like for tweaks to still be useable on stations, but not the way it currently is. With the current system that we have right now we have two different problems in my opinion.

1. Long tweaks with (usually) small bonusses such as Adamantium Shieldings (10% shield regen for 5 minutes), Kotonjas (-10% recoil and +5% damage for 10 minutes) and Source of Energon (35% energy bank and 15% energy regen for 5 minutes) being used to beef a base by a very large margin for a good amount of time in order to increase the survivability of the base, the damage per second output or both.

2. Tweaks with very large bonusses for a small amount of time being spammed. Think of tweaks such as Assassinations (30% damage for 12 seconds), Swifty Spry Attacks (-40% weapon recoil for 2 seconds) and Last Stands (91.5% shieldbank and 61% shield regen for 12 seconds).

Now, the first problem is a very clear one. You increase a base his capabilities by a pretty significant margin for a longer period of time for free and ofcourse that's simply unfair, unbalanced and I think it shouldn't be possible to do this at all. So any tweak that lasts for longer than a 20 seconds shouldn't be useable on bases in my opinion.

Now for the interesting part. I think tweaks that give a large boosts for a small amount of time are actually incredibly fun to use on bases. It gives a whole other level to base combat and I think they're fine to stay IF THEY CAN NOT BE SPAMMED.
They need an internal cooldown. Popping Last stands one after the other is bad game design but if you're able to pop a well-timed one and save the kit for another orbit of the planet that actually gives such a great feeling to the player that just saved it (trust me, I know ). I would suggest a 1 to 2 minute cooldown for these bursty kind of tweaks but I would very much like to see them continueing play a part in base combat.


Please discuss, since I know one man's opinion won't be enough to persuade anyone these days

How about superitems instead of tweaks for serving that kind of a purpose?

I'll take a look at them.



We're intentionally leaving in "tug-o-war" on attackers bases, at least for now. We realize that currently unattached defenses are rarely used currently but their vulnerability to tractors is a big part of that and we'd like to see where they stand now that they'll be unable to be tractored.

The major downside to unattached kits in the higher levels of BvB is simply that they don't have a planet to block a large margin of the pulseguns for the kit. This makes an unattached kit's survivability a lot lower than an attached kit simply because the uptime is a lot higher on unattached

- Base slots needs to be revamped Please!
- Permanent drones needs to be revamped (this will also benefit Anatolia if there is no revamp of the Emperor mechanic) yep
- Achilles Pulse Guns needs to have viable alternatives (right now there is none, and due to the range of this weapon, it is also another contributing factor to the tug-o-war game we've allowed Star Sonata to become) above, or similar

Honestly the number of kits needs to be limited in some way. I'd like something along the lines of: attacking kits = defending kits - 4 with a minimum of 1 kit.

Or a hardcap for attacker bases. I really don't see any problem of having unkillable gal for high cost.

Attackers get a hard cap, but defenders don't?

I get it, you want it to be hard to kill a good gal. Which it is. I haven't seen any 30 kit bvb's coming out of EF other than one fail last uni. Traders and RF on the other hand...

Think about the cost an attacker risks, vs a defender. Attacker lays 30 kits, to MAYBE kill the galaxy. And then has to wait for those kits to abandon to reclaim the galaxy.

Defender gets a uni's worth of profit, and MAYBE gets attacked.

Defender gets a uni's worth of profit, and MAYBE gets attacked.

There won't be hardly any profit if high defenses is required.

Basically I just feel that making turtle more viable would be good for newbies in this game because of totally messed up casual player - hardcore player ratio.

With just Y's you can make 350-500b a uni from a DECENT metal galaxy.

Alright so how about balancing attacker hard cap at 300b defense cost to defend against bvb per gal. Max 20 attacker kits or something.

Sounds like effort heh