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carterstrain
Main: king kone Level: 37
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Re: Industrial Commodities System
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DarkSteel
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Team: Rank: Main: Dark Steel Level: 9138 Joined: Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:35 am Posts: 2068 Location: Netherlands
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Re: Industrial Commodities System
anilv wrote: Ok, but that has little to do with the current thread, seeing as selling Extension Y's isn't considered a bug by the admins (I position I support considering that it's comparable at best with colonies). I agree with both of you
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Mon Feb 22, 2016 5:30 pm |
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Antilzah
Team: Rank: Officer Main: Blizzara Level: 6660 Joined: Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:25 pm Posts: 1974 Location: Finland
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Re: Industrial Commodities System
Extension Ys are the most efficient source of passive income in terms of effort / value ratio as long as you have a handy way to sell them to AI base. They are bad for their base slots / value ratio. They also have additional benefit of requiring less gals to defend if you go for combination of both colonies and ext Ys.
This change does not sound like a nerf at all. If all 35 bases are buying steel girders at their base price, game is generating 105b credits daily. And that's with just one type of new industry commodity. This change will make metal production harder than it was before but I feel there is much more potential if you spend some time managing your infrastructure.
This change will add immersion to the game. That's the strongest point of this change in my humble opinion. Newer players can get their slice of the cake if they spend some time looking at /mc. Just like how I used to buy and sell prom between AI bases back in 2006 in order to buy Bule Insanity and other similar items.
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Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:51 pm |
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sabre198
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Team: Rank: Officer Main: topbuzzz Level: 8015 Joined: Sun Dec 21, 2008 12:31 pm Posts: 4347
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Re: Industrial Commodities System
Totally agree on that me and xii-returns used to love running prom to make money for our hestias but there wasn't a next stage up of prom running. This at least adds more to this aspect of the game that was definitely enjoyable early on.
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Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:33 am |
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DarkSteel
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Team: Rank: Main: Dark Steel Level: 9138 Joined: Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:35 am Posts: 2068 Location: Netherlands
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Re: Industrial Commodities System
Antilzah wrote: Extension Ys are the most efficient source of passive income in terms of effort / value ratio as long as you have a handy way to sell them to AI base. They are bad for their base slots / value ratio. They also have additional benefit of requiring less gals to defend if you go for combination of both colonies and ext Ys.
This change does not sound like a nerf at all. If all 35 bases are buying steel girders at their base price, game is generating 105b credits daily. And that's with just one type of new industry commodity. This change will make metal production harder than it was before but I feel there is much more potential if you spend some time managing your infrastructure.
This change will add immersion to the game. That's the strongest point of this change in my humble opinion. Newer players can get their slice of the cake if they spend some time looking at /mc. Just like how I used to buy and sell prom between AI bases back in 2006 in order to buy Bule Insanity and other similar items. This. Although, I don't 100% agree with Ys being easier to setup. It's true on a certain lower scale but when you go above 20 metal kits the logistic part of it requires a shitton of micromanagement to set up if you have a limited amount of slave power. I'm pretty sure setting up <10 colos (pretty sure those yield atleast asmuch, if not more income) will take a lot less time and you don't even need mfm slaves at that point.
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Wed Feb 24, 2016 3:33 am |
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The Salty One
Team: Rank: Main: Ununoctium Level: 5960 Joined: Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:27 pm Posts: 1773
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Re: Industrial Commodities System
I feel like the decay rate should have a flat component and something linked to the current inventory as well, just to smooth over the AI bases where everyone's trying to sell. Or just one person is trying to sell and they can't agro bases anymore
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Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:08 am |
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ELITE
Team: Rank: Soldier Main: LemonPrime Level: 8087 Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:14 pm Posts: 5747
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Re: Industrial Commodities System
Or we could get the aggro galaxy function back, since we removed all ability to blockade any sort of content with bases. WTB KILL ZONES
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Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:18 am |
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Charliem
Team: Rank: Director Main: Charlie Level: 5004 Joined: Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:43 pm Posts: 55
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Re: Industrial Commodities System
if the winning strategy is to cheat, then the winner is made a cheater.
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Wed Mar 23, 2016 7:21 am |
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dokimastis
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Main: Dokimastis Level: 3169
Joined: Wed Feb 03, 2016 4:58 pm Posts: 8
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Re: Industrial Commodities System
ELITE wrote: Or we could get the aggro galaxy function back, since we removed all ability to blockade any sort of content with bases. WTB KILL ZONES There has been some talk about aggro'ing bases again. We'll see how things go.
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Wed Mar 23, 2016 7:55 am |
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CLXXXIII
Team: Rank: Councilor Main: CLXXXIII Level: 6059 Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:16 am Posts: 132
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Re: Industrial Commodities System
Great idea hope it comes sooner than steam PS: i like it
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Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:58 pm |
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potato2
Team: Rank: Director Main: The Ultimatum Level: 282 Joined: Fri Jan 21, 2011 7:56 pm Posts: 193
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Re: Industrial Commodities System
aggro bases coming back would be amazing! might add a slight sense of risk to traveling wildspace(although im sure some silly people would setup kits just to annoy people)
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Fri Mar 25, 2016 2:09 am |
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DarkSteel
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Team: Rank: Main: Dark Steel Level: 9138 Joined: Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:35 am Posts: 2068 Location: Netherlands
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Re: Industrial Commodities System
Aggroing should only be allowed in galaxies owned by that team and it should cost a decent amount to keep people from randomly aggroing their stuff all over the place.
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Fri Mar 25, 2016 5:49 am |
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redalert150
Team: Rank: Councilor Main: 1-800-USE_THE_FORCE! Level: 9597 Joined: Sun Aug 28, 2005 6:36 pm Posts: 2769
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Re: Industrial Commodities System
I dont get what the point of being able to aggro bases would be? I mean it would be fun and hilarious, but just seems like a way to grief players for no reason.
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Fri Mar 25, 2016 6:03 am |
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DarkSteel
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Team: Rank: Main: Dark Steel Level: 9138 Joined: Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:35 am Posts: 2068 Location: Netherlands
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Re: Industrial Commodities System
redalert150 wrote: I dont get what the point of being able to aggro bases would be? I mean it would be fun and hilarious, but just seems like a way to grief players for no reason. Block AI bases to other people so they cant sell their industrial commods there.
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Fri Mar 25, 2016 6:32 am |
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redalert150
Team: Rank: Councilor Main: 1-800-USE_THE_FORCE! Level: 9597 Joined: Sun Aug 28, 2005 6:36 pm Posts: 2769
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Re: Industrial Commodities System
heylo wrote: redalert150 wrote: I dont get what the point of being able to aggro bases would be? I mean it would be fun and hilarious, but just seems like a way to grief players for no reason. Block AI bases to other people so they cant sell their industrial commods there. ohhh okay.
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Fri Mar 25, 2016 7:08 am |
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