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Post Re: The Emperor contest rework
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A team will get absolutely nothing from owning Anatolia and the palace until they build a Crown ship and manage to dock it in Sol. The rewards for becoming Emperor will be as follows:

Ability to create one Unclean Imperial Seal every 24 hours on the palace. (already ingame)


This means you will be changing the Requirement to build a crown then or will you have to open Tarnished imp chests on the base to get the required seals for the build, I am sure you haven't over looked this but its something you haven't covered.


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A team will get absolutely nothing from owning Anatolia and the palace until they build a Crown ship and manage to dock it in Sol. The rewards for becoming Emperor will be as follows:

Ability to create one Unclean Imperial Seal every 24 hours on the palace. (already ingame)


This means you will be changing the Requirement to build a crown then or will you have to open Tarnished imp chests on the base to get the required seals for the build, I am sure you haven't over looked this but its something you haven't covered.


We're changing the cost (and no it won't be imp chests :P). I was initially thinking to make it require 100-250 of each T3 commod but that's still up for discussion as well.

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Post Re: The Emperor contest rework
For the crown, we should also probably allow people to attack it in protected space without consequences. Infact, maybe even remove the pvp protection in protected space entirely while it's flying to sol.

As-is, once you get to protected space you're basically home free because no one can really attack you, so the route you have to fly through is that much shorter, and the time anyone has to mount a offensive is that much shorter.


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Post Re: The Emperor contest rework
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We're changing the cost (and no it won't be imp chests :P). I was initially thinking to make it require 100-250 of each T3 commod but that's still up for discussion as well.


I would personally shy away from Tier commod, and make it require T3 Industrial commods and then it forces you to build them the uni you want to go for it. and they get lost on reset, cause just doing Tier 3 commmods is boring.

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Cause building the ship should be difficult and something you cant prep for universes in advance, cause base gear and Augs for the BvB part is the easy bit, not much cost involved if you use bana kits


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Good suggestion and noted :)

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Have you considered giving teams a 5 base limit per gal? Would allow a lot more teams to participate in this, not just the legacy teams with shit ton of base gear.

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Have you considered giving teams a 5 base limit per gal? Would allow a lot more teams to participate in this, not just the legacy teams with shit ton of base gear.


In the initial design there wouldn't be a limit. However we might put one up, but 5 seems far too low.

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I strongly suggest we do not add a base cap.

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Have you considered giving teams a 5 base limit per gal? Would allow a lot more teams to participate in this, not just the legacy teams with shit ton of base gear.


In the initial design there wouldn't be a limit. However we might put one up, but 5 seems far too low.



Well most decent teams can make 5 OP bases, maybe 10 not a lot of teams can make 15+ OP bases. The zone would be a whole lot more fun if its most of the player base participating and not just 2-3 teams.

I think thats another thing that scares people away from pvp, the fact that a player with unlimited resources can just shit on them because of that fact. It no longer becomes a game of skill but rather a game of who has the most stuff, which is no fun. Except maybe for the select few that have the most stuff, but that gets boring to.

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Post Re: The Emperor contest rework
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heylo wrote:
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Have you considered giving teams a 5 base limit per gal? Would allow a lot more teams to participate in this, not just the legacy teams with shit ton of base gear.


In the initial design there wouldn't be a limit. However we might put one up, but 5 seems far too low.



Well most decent teams can make 5 OP bases, maybe 10 not a lot of teams can make 15+ OP bases. The zone would be a whole lot more fun if its most of the player base participating and not just 2-3 teams.

I think thats another thing that scares people away from pvp, the fact that a player with unlimited resources can just shit on them because of that fact. It no longer becomes a game of skill but rather a game of who has the most stuff, which is no fun. Except maybe for the select few that have the most stuff, but that gets boring to.




Star Sonata did the limits and evolved to no longer have them for many reasons. It was a process and its better for it. I dont think we should fix something that isnt broken.

also, this would stop smaller teams from defending against large group attacks of ships from larger teams.

A smaller team with less resources would not want the limit, because JY kits are practically free, so they could make up for their lack of resources with a lot of kits. But teams like DSF, Hiig, and the half dozen or so tiny teams wont be able to defend themselves at all, even with a 15 kit limit. if we are restricting this to the emp zone, I still argue that this would stop teams like DSF from even bvbing thru the ai to get to anatolia, let alone fight any team that has the next tier of resources.

Furthermore, With the current no-towing taken into effect, often the attacker has absolutely no way to do the bvb if they are limited to the amount of kits the defender has, because the defender can lay 30ish drones (can be 3m hps, 3m dps, or like 1.5 of each (very rough numbers)).

Without limits, each defender and attacker is allowed to utilize all of their resources to defend one thing, if they want, or spread out among several systems. The no-limit allows for a much more dynamic playing experience. If base limits are instituted, players will be much more restricted in their playing experience.

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Post Re: The Emperor contest rework
eta on new emp system anyways? nextuni? 2unis? 3? 5? 15?


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Okay so no limits then, only Traders will benefit from this new system. Fine with me then.

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Post Re: The Emperor contest rework
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Okay so no limits then, only Traders will benefit from this new system. Fine with me then.


Traders does have a lot of strong basing players, but the involvement of some of our leadership in the development of the new zone would mean that we will not be the first ones out of the gate in attempting to take Emperor under the new mechanics.

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Okay so no limits then, only Traders will benefit from this new system. Fine with me then.


Hiig and DSF and zephyr and ascension and EF benefit from it, which is like 80% of the game. I dont know enough about traders to say if they benefit. and, if the system is placed in without the limits and enough galaxies off of anatolia are placed, every team that wants to could fight for emperor. you could get like 4-5 teams bordering anatolia at a time if it went the right way and have epic epicness.

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Okay so no limits then, only Traders will benefit from this new system. Fine with me then.



And, no offense intended, but I'm pretty sure you dont have any base experience really? and certainly not the extensive experience that seems to make up the other side of this argument

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