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Post Did thrust get nerfed, or is it bugged?
Thrust seems to have gotten nerfed or is bugged, I am not sure which:

-Previously FC's only got +40% to thrust, now they get +50% but all ships are WAY more sluggish.
-Same with FC slaves, they are like turtles now even though they are getting more thrust bonus.
-On Merchant Fleet Master I noticed the same thing. My fully loaded Levi tradeslave on my MFM had no probs with a hull full of nuke waste. Now it turns and circles so slow it times out trying to dock and goes on to the next order. I had to re-aug my trade fleet with thrust augs to compensate.

Is this a bug? Or something else going on?


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Post Re: Did thrust get nerfed, or is it bugged?
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Thrust seems to have gotten nerfed or is bugged, I am not sure which:

-Previously FC's only got +40% to thrust, now they get +50% but all ships are WAY more sluggish.
-Same with FC slaves, they are like turtles now even though they are getting more thrust bonus.
-On Merchant Fleet Master I noticed the same thing. My fully loaded Levi tradeslave on my MFM had no probs with a hull full of nuke waste. Now it turns and circles so slow it times out trying to dock and goes on to the next order. I had to re-aug my trade fleet with thrust augs to compensate.

Is this a bug? Or something else going on?


I thought i was crazy.

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Post Re: Did thrust get nerfed, or is it bugged?
maybe removing tweaking and doubling augs did wierd effects

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Post Re: Did thrust get nerfed, or is it bugged?
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maybe removing tweaking and doubling augs did wierd effects


Many of the examples I mentioned didn't have thrust augmenters to begin with. I notice there is barely a difference in the agility of MFM and non-MFM tradeslaves. It appears the thrust bonus from skills like zen of fleet or MFM aren't being applied properly.


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Post Re: Did thrust get nerfed, or is it bugged?
Industrial Freighters are not supposed to receive any kind of class bonus whatsoever. The last patch did some wonky stuff with IFs. My Zerk's Dark Freighter, same cheap ass setup as every other DF on my account, has a +20k hull difference between it and the non-Zerk ones.


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Post Re: Did thrust get nerfed, or is it bugged?
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Industrial Freighters are not supposed to receive any kind of class bonus whatsoever. The last patch did some wonky stuff with IFs. My Zerk's Dark Freighter, same cheap ass setup as every other DF on my account, has a +20k hull difference between it and the non-Zerk ones.


I was referring to my main ship and combat slaves for the skill bonus which appears is not being applied correctly. Trade slave industrial freighters are suppose to get bonuses from MFM though, and it's currently questionable if that is happening for thrust.


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Post Re: Did thrust get nerfed, or is it bugged?
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Max235 wrote:
Industrial Freighters are not supposed to receive any kind of class bonus whatsoever. The last patch did some wonky stuff with IFs. My Zerk's Dark Freighter, same cheap ass setup as every other DF on my account, has a +20k hull difference between it and the non-Zerk ones.


I was referring to my main ship and combat slaves for the skill bonus which appears is not being applied correctly. Trade slave industrial freighters are suppose to get bonuses from MFM though, and it's currently questionable if that is happening for thrust.


Class skills are: Recon, SD, Seer, Combat, Zerk, Sniper, Fleet, FC, Gunner, Support, ShM, Engineer, and all relevant normal and adv. subskills.

MFM is a trade skill.

Anyways, my Levi+ slaves are unhampered. I believe this is because I'm using 2 Exc Sardine and 1 Exc Racer, opting for a balance of stats than straight hull.

My Zerk's DF though....It's getting the percentage hull bonus from Berserker class.


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Post Re: Did thrust get nerfed, or is it bugged?
So once again, zerker is the best trade slave class :D


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Post Re: Did thrust get nerfed, or is it bugged?
We found the issue. Mfm skill is currently only giving 1% per level instead of 2%. We'll get a fix in asap

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Post Re: Did thrust get nerfed, or is it bugged?
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We found the issue. Mfm skill is currently only giving 1% per level instead of 2%. We'll get a fix in asap


Ah thats great, thanks for looking into it so quickly. With respect to main ships though and combat slaves, is there a way to check if Zen of Fleet/slave mastery is actually giving its bonus for thrust. With the current math FCs and their slaves should actually be zippier than before, but in reality they are far more sluggish so seems like something is amiss there also.


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