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Post My List of Ship Fixes/Changes
This thread contains my list of ship fixes in ships.xml. I will keep this list updated. I'll be working on this mostly with Beelzebub. Let me know if everything is good, or if I'm missing something.

List of WIP or Problems
- Mini Mad Scientist has a bad engine, but I feel it works fine for the bigger t20 version. Need to test it. If its true, Mini Mad Scientist needs its own Index.

-Oversized Wingship needs its own index so its engine works.

-I would prefer that the Oversized Rosburst have its own Index, its engine is still inside the ship, after I fixed it so that the Rosburst looks fine.

-After some time, my basil slaves decide to become fatter (wider) compared to normal basils.

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Fixed Ships

Locution ( Tweaked Engine ) 5/21/11
Code:
<ship index="47">
      <default>
         <model>Locution.obj</model>
         <texture>Locution.jpg</texture>
      <enginemounts>
         <mount0>0, 0.0, -12</mount0>
      </enginemounts>
      </default>
      <combat/>
      <travel/>
   </ship>


Massif and Massif 2 ( Fixed Engines ) 5/21/11
Code:
   <ship index="123">
      <default>
      <model>Massif01c.obj</model>
      <texture>Massif01.jpg</texture>
    <centeroffset>0, 0, 0.5</centeroffset>
      <enginemounts>
         <mount0>0.4, 0, -1.8</mount0>
         <mount1>-0.4, 0, -1.8</mount1>
      </enginemounts>
    </default>
      <combat/>
      <travel/>
   </ship>


Equanimizer and Equanimity ( Fixed Engines to work with both ships ) 5/21/11
Code:
   <ship index="38">
    <default>
      <model>Nutshell.obj</model>
      <texture>Nutshell.jpg</texture>
      <enginemounts>
        <mount0>0.0,7.0,-20.0 </mount0>
      </enginemounts>
    </default>
    <combat/>
    <travel/>
   </ship>


Volcom class ships ( Tweaked Engine ) 5/21/11
Code:
   <ship index="11">
      <default>
         <model>Volcom.obj</model>
         <texture>Volcom.jpg</texture>
         <enginemounts>
            <mount0>0.0, 0.0, -20.0</mount0>
         </enginemounts>
      </default>
      <combat/>
      <travel/>
   </ship>


Phunka class ships ( Gave 2 engines, fixed engine ) 5/21/11
//Note, 2 engines look nicer for the ship in my opinion.
//If you want to keep at 1 engine, remove <mount1> and change <mount0> to (0, 0.0, -40.0)

Code:
   <ship index="28">
    <default>
      <model>Phunka.obj</model>
      <texture>Phunka.jpg</texture>
      <anim>Phunka_Anim.x</anim>
      <animationspeed>30.0f</animationspeed>
      <enginemounts>
      <mount0>-20.0, 0.0, -40.0</mount0>
      <mount1>20.0, 0.0, -40.0</mount1>
      </enginemounts>
      <constantanim>1</constantanim>
      <startframe>0</startframe>
      <environmentbuffers>
        <buffer>
          <index>0</index>
          <texture>egreen.jpg</texture>
        </buffer>
      </environmentbuffers>
    </default>
    <combat/>
    <travel/>
   </ship>


Unforge ( Fixed engine ) 5/21/11
// Note, Index 39 is also an unforge model. It might require same engine mount fix.
Code:
   <ship index="23">
      <default>
         <model>Unforge.obj</model>
         <texture>Unforge.jpg</texture>
         <anim>Unforge_Anim.x</anim>
         <animationspeed>30.0f</animationspeed>
         <constantanim>1</constantanim>
         <startframe>0</startframe>
         <enginemounts>
            <mount0>0.0,  0.0, -55.0</mount0>
         </enginemounts>
      </default>
    <combat/>
    <travel/>
   </ship>


Ragnarok class ( Gave 2 engines, tweaked ) 5/21/11
//Note, the ship implies two engines by its model, so I gave it that.
//If it needs to be reverted to 1 engine, remove <mount1> and change
//<mount0> to (0, 5.0, -12.0)

Code:
   <ship index="13">
      <default>
         <model>Ragnarok.obj</model>
         <texture>Ragnarok.jpg</texture>
         <rotationoffset>0, 180, 0</rotationoffset>
         <shininess>10.0</shininess>
         <enginemounts>
            <mount0>-5.0, 5.0, -12.0</mount0>
            <mount1>5.0, 5.0, -12.0</mount1>
         </enginemounts>
      </default>
      <combat/>
      <travel/>
   </ship>


Kelvin ( Gave 2 engines as ship model implies, fixed engine ) 5/21/11
Code:
   <ship index="24">
      <default>
         <model>Kelvin.obj</model>
         <texture>Kelvin.jpg</texture>
         <rotationoffset>0, 180, 0</rotationoffset>
         <enginemounts>
            <mount0>-13.0,  1.0, -20.0</mount0>
            <mount1>13.0,  1.0, -20.0</mount1>            
         </enginemounts>
      </default>
      <combat/>
      <travel/>
   </ship>


Rosfire ( Fixed Engine ) 5/21/11
//Note, Roswell, Big Roswell, and Rosburst are different indexes.
//Roswell and Big Roswell share index 2, and Rosburst is index 12.
//If any other ships share any of these indexes, I do not know of them.
//Oversized Rosfire DOES work fine too.

Code:
   <ship index="87">
      <default>
         <model>Roswell.obj</model>
         <texture>Roswell.jpg</texture>
         <enginemounts>
            <mount0>0.0, -4.0, -140.0</mount0>
         </enginemounts>
      </default>
      <combat/>
      <travel/>
   </ship>


Rosemary ( Fixed Engines, Added GlowMap ) 5/27/11
http://i.imgur.com/Q13Gs.jpg
//Glowmap exists at least until you guys get the off/on glows working, like on Paxian ships.
//Though GlowMap may be needed for that anyways.

Code:
  <ship index="85">
    <default>
      <model>Rosemary.obj</model>
      <texture>Rosemary.jpg</texture>
     <glowmap>RosemaryGlowMap.jpg</glowmap>
      <enginemounts>
        <mount0>-9.0, 0.0, -30.0</mount0>
        <mount1>9.0, 0.0, -30.0</mount1>
      </enginemounts>
    </default>
    <combat/>
    <travel/>
  </ship>


Oversized Zebucart & Zebucart ( Fixed Engine to work with both ) 5/22/11
Code:
   <ship index="93">
      <default>
         <model>Zebucart.obj</model>
         <texture>Zebucart.jpg</texture>
         <animationspeed>1.9f</animationspeed>
         <shininess>25.0</shininess>
         <specularcolor>0.5, 0.5, 0.5</specularcolor>
         <enginemounts>
            <mount0>0.0, 0.0, -20.0</mount0>
         </enginemounts>
         <environmentbuffers>
            <buffer><index>0</index></buffer>
         </environmentbuffers>
      </default>
      <!--
      <combat>
         <anim>ZebuCart_Anim.x</anim>
      </combat>
      -->
      <travel/>
   </ship>


Basil ( Fixed Engine ) 5/22/11
Code:
   <ship index="86">
      <default>
         <model>Basil.obj</model>
         <texture>Basil.jpg</texture>
         <enginemounts>
            <mount0>0.0, 0.0, -30</mount0>
         </enginemounts>
      </default>
    <combat>
      <anim>Basil_Anim.x</anim>
    </combat>
    <travel/>
   </ship>


Rosburst & Oversized Rosburst ( Fixed Engine to work with both. Flipped ship to face forward correctly. ) 5/27/11
//Note, would prefer Oversized Rosburst have its own Index. Its engine is still inside of its ship.
Code:
  <ship index="12">
    <default>
      <model>Rosburst.obj</model>
      <texture>Rosburst.jpg</texture>
     <rotationoffset>0, 180, 0</rotationoffset>
      <enginemounts>
        <mount0>0, 0, -30.0</mount0>
      </enginemounts>
    </default>
    <combat>
      <anim>Rosburst_Anim.x</anim>
    </combat>
    <travel/>
  </ship>


Wingship ( Fixed Engine ) 5/22/11
//Note, I either fixed this, or it was like it. I dont remember.
//All I know, is that the Oversized Wingship needs its own index
//In order for its engine to work properly, it needs a much different
//Engine mount than the Wingship, and they currently use same index.

Code:
  <ship index="1">
    <default>
      <model>Wingship.obj</model>
      <texture>Wingship.jpg</texture>
      <centeroffset>0, 0, 23</centeroffset>
      <rotationoffset>0, 180, 0</rotationoffset>
      <enginemounts>
        <mount0>0.0, 0.0, -10.0</mount0>
      </enginemounts>
    </default>
    <combat/>
    <travel/>
  </ship>


Space Blue Gamma ( Gave 2 Engines, Fixed Engine ) 5/22/11
Code:
   <ship index="61">
      <default>
         <model>SpaceBlueGamma.obj</model>
         <texture>SpaceBlueGamma.jpg</texture>
         <enginemounts>
            <mount0>-32.0, 5.0, -40.0</mount0>
            <mount1>32.0, 5.0, -40.0</mount1>
         </enginemounts>
      </default>
      <combat/>
      <travel/>
   </ship>


Sawtooth ( Fixed Engine placement and height ) 5/22/11
Code:
   <ship index="90">
      <default>
         <model>Sawtooth.obj</model>
         <texture>Sawtooth.jpg</texture>
         <enginemounts>
            <mount0>-25.0, 3.0, -32.0</mount0>
            <mount1>25.0, 3.0, -32.0</mount1>
         </enginemounts>
      </default>
      <combat/>
      <travel/>
   </ship>


SawtoothX ( Fixed Engine placement and height) 5/22/11
Code:
   <ship index="91">
      <default>
         <model>SawtoothX.obj</model>
         <texture>SawtoothX.jpg</texture>
         <enginemounts>
            <mount0>-25.0, 3.0, -32.0</mount0>
            <mount1>25.0, 3.0, -32.0</mount1>
         </enginemounts>
      </default>
      <combat/>
      <travel/>
   </ship>


Space Blue Beta ( Fixed Engine ) 5/22/11
Code:
   <ship index="62">
      <default>
         <model>SpaceBlueBeta.obj</model>
         <texture>SpaceBlueBeta.jpg</texture>
         <enginemounts>
            <mount0>0.0, 5.0, -30.0</mount0>
         </enginemounts>
      </default>
      <combat/>
      <travel/>
   </ship>


Behemoth (Added GlowMap) 5/27/11
http://i.imgur.com/DcCkg.jpg
Code:
   <ship index="30">
      <default>
         <model>Behemoth.obj</model>
         <texture>Behemoth.jpg</texture>
         <glowmap>BehemothGlowMap.jpg</glowmap>
         <enginemounts>
            <mount0>0.0,  10.0, -82.0</mount0>
         </enginemounts>
      </default>
      <combat/>
      <travel/>
   </ship>


Behemoth+ (Added GlowMap) 5/27/11
http://i.imgur.com/DveMc.jpg
Code:
   <ship index="181">
    <default>
      <model>Behemoth.obj</model>
      <texture>Behemoth+.jpg</texture>
      <enginemounts>
        <mount0>0.0, 10.0, -82.0</mount0>
      </enginemounts>
      <glowmap>Behemoth+GlowMap.jpg</glowmap>
    </default>
    <combat/>
    <travel/>
  </ship>


Leviathan (Added GlowMap) 5/27/11
http://i.imgur.com/CUrit.jpg
Code:
  <ship index="46">
    <default>
      <model>Leviathan.obj</model>
      <texture>Leviathan.jpg</texture>
     <glowmap>LeviathanGlowMap.jpg</glowmap>
      <enginemounts>
        <mount0>0.0, -4.2, -64.0</mount0>
      </enginemounts>
    </default>
    <combat/>
    <travel/>
  </ship>


Leviathon+ (Added GlowMap) 5/27/11
http://i.imgur.com/RQiwu.jpg
Code:
   <ship index="182">
    <default>
      <model>Leviathan.obj</model>
      <texture>Leviathon+.jpg</texture>
     <glowmap>Leviathon+GlowMap.jpg</glowmap>
      <enginemounts>
        <mount0>0,-4.2,-64.0</mount0>
      </enginemounts>
    </default>
    <combat/>
    <travel/>
   </ship>


Big Green/Agememmnon (Added GlowMap) 5/27/11
http://i.imgur.com/C7oh0.jpg
Code:
   <ship index="8">
      <default>
         <model>BigGreenAgamemnon.obj</model>
         <texture>BigGreenAgamemnon.jpg</texture>
         <glowmap>BigGreenAgamemnonGlowMap.jpg</glowmap>
         <enginemounts>
            <mount0>0.0, 10.0, -35.0</mount0>
         </enginemounts>
      </default>
      <combat/>
      <travel/>
   </ship>

And also for the Agememmnon+ (Added GlowMap) 5/27/11
Code:
  <ship index="192">
    <default>
      <model>BigGreenAgamemnon.obj</model>
      <texture>BigGreenAgamemnon+.jpg</texture>
     <glowmap>BigGreenAgamemnonGlowMap.jpg</glowmap>
      <enginemounts>
        <mount0>0,0,-30</mount0>
      </enginemounts>
    </default>
    <combat/>
    <travel/>
  </ship>


Green Battleship (Added GlowMap) 5/27/11
http://i.imgur.com/8SGEn.jpg
Code:
   <ship index="169">
      <default>
         <model>BigGreenBattleship.obj</model>
         <texture>BigGreenBattleship.jpg</texture>
         <glowmap>BigGreenBattleshipGlowMap.jpg</glowmap>
         <enginemounts>
         <mount0>40.0, 25.0, -125.0</mount0>
         <mount1>-40ss.0, 25.0, -125.0</mount1>
      </enginemounts>
      </default>
      <combat/>
      <travel/>
   </ship>


Guardian of Warp 4 (Added GlowMap) 5/27/11
http://i.imgur.com/Bkvb5.jpg
Code:
   <ship index="120">
      <default>
         <model>GuardianofW4mesh.obj</model>
         <texture>GuardianofW4.jpg</texture>
         <glowmap>GuardianofW4GlowMap.jpg</glowmap>
      </default>
      <combat/>
      <travel/>
   </ship>


Faranji Stinger ( Gave same model/texture as Spearhead, since in C1 its just a different texture of Spearhead anyways. ) 5/28/11
Code:
  <ship index="200">
      <default>
         <model>Spearhead.obj</model>
         <texture>Spearhead.jpg</texture>
         <rotationoffset>180, 0, 180</rotationoffset>
         <enginemounts>
            <mount0>0.0,  0.0, -28.0</mount0>
         </enginemounts>
      </default>
      <combat/>
      <travel/>
   </ship>


Mzungu Liquid ( Fixed Engine ) 5/28/11
Code:
   <ship index="7">
      <default>
         <model>MzunguLiquid.obj</model>
         <texture>MzunguLiquid.jpg</texture>
         <enginemounts>
            <mount0>0.0, 0, -50.0</mount0>
            </enginemounts>
      </default>
      <combat/>
      <travel/>
   </ship>


Forgone ( Fixed Engine ) 6/04/11
Code:
   <ship index="89">
      <default>
         <model>Forgone.obj</model>
         <texture>Forgone.jpg</texture>
         <enginemounts>
            <mount0>0, 0, -50.0</mount0>
         </enginemounts>
      </default>
      <combat/>
      <travel/>
   </ship>


Forge ( Fixed Animation ) 6/05/11
//Note: This is the Nihilite AI for those who don't know.
Code:
  <ship index="39">
    <default>
      <model>Unforge.obj</model>
      <texture>Forge.jpg</texture>
      <anim>Unforge_Anim.x</anim>
      <animationspeed>30.0f</animationspeed>
      <constantanim>1</constantanim>
      <startframe>0</startframe>
      <enginemounts>
        <mount0>0.0,  0.0, -55.0</mount0>
      </enginemounts>
    </default>
    <combat/>
    <travel/>
  </ship>


Scruple ( Fixed Engine ) 6/05/11
Code:
   <ship index="45">
      <default>
         <model>Scruple.obj</model>
         <texture>Scruple.jpg</texture>
         <anim>Scruple_Anim.x</anim>
         <enginemounts>
            <mount0>0,0,-30</mount0>
         </enginemounts>
      <animationspeed>30.0f</animationspeed>
      <constantanim>1</constantanim>
      <startframe>0</startframe>
    </default>
      <combat>
      </combat>
    <travel/>
   </ship>

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Thanks for all the fixes. =)

Please make a new post for additional changes rather than editing to make sure I see anything new.

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Or he could just bump this post?

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Thats the plan, yep.

Is there any way I can change ships myself to point to different indexes, or make new indexes? I have done like zero research myself as to if I can actually do that to be honest. Anybody know?

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The indexes are specified in the server-side hull data, which is used in C1 to specify which image to use. We just re-use those in C2 to index into the ships.xml file.

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Ah I see, and the main problem I've been seeing with that is that even though ships are supposed to look the same with one larger than the other, the size difference (for example with Oversized Wingship and normal Wingship as listed at the top of my thread) causes the issue with the engines.

Then again, I've also seen the size difference work fine, for example the Massif and Massif II use the same index, and as I changed the values for engine mounts, it changed correctly for both ships.

This may also be the case with the Mini Mad Scientist and the App Ward. Engine is bad for Mini Mad, but might actually work fine on the App Ward. Pretty sure they use the same index.

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Im not sure if this is true but i think we previously used differnt scalling methods so they may not all be the same and that could be causing the issues. Massif is for sure the new stuff because of the awesome way the animations where done.

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This is actually a known problem. My current plan of action is to basically just make due with the engine problems for these ships that currently share indexes, and then once we're off of C1, split the indexes of all the problematic ships.

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Sounds good.

With that said, I'll just take note of what needs to be fixed or my assumptions on what to check, as I've been doing at the top of the thread.

This week is going to be less about engines, as I'm going to be taking a deeper look into the UI and see if I can come up with anything for it. That, as well as just other things I can find. More exploring the client side stuff. I'm just trying to find something else to do than the boring job of checking engines :P

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You could look at trying to add some environment buffers to some other ships. Maybe the Goldenboy line? Or maybe adding some glowmaps if you have any photoshop skillz.

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Except I don't like the glowmaps to begin with :P I mean look at the Behemoth... That thing needs a tone down. Actually, now I want to play around with that glowmap, rather than an intensity issue, it may be an issue with the picture. Hm.

Yeah, I'll look into that a bit :D

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Is it just me? I mean... the Behemoth glowmap is so... fuzzy... I even tried making the pixel of each window down to 1, and its still very fuzzy... fuzzy is about as good as I can describe it.

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Well, as the texture gets mapped onto the geometry, you're not going to get anything that's pixel-perfect. Also, the glow map probably has a glow shader on it which makes it bleed the light.

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I might do some Paxian Glow maps during a a break at work or something. I also have a Guardian glow map around here somwhere I think...

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Oh, yeah, that's a good point. I had forgotten about the Paxian glowmaps. We definitely need us some of those.

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