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Lt.Nelson
Main: Lt.Nelson+ Level: 5
Joined: Wed May 04, 2005 12:18 am Posts: 3 Location: Iowa
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I don't mind the SP costs. If new players have to pay the SP costs, then I should too. Otherwise I'd come out with ~1000 SP more than anybody starting after the change.
I'm fine with the skill costing creds. Well, no... I'm fine with it costing creds as long as other skills cost creds. But the concept of paying for skills is almost the stupidest thing I've seen in SS. It only hurts the real noobs. Paying ~300m for a skill does not hurt alts and it leaves the real noobs unable to compete with alts that are the same level or even lower than them.
But yeah, as long as creds for skills is in the game, then I'm fine with the new AT costing creds, as long as we are given back the creds that we paid to train the current AT.
What I AM NOT fine with is having to do new content to train the new AT skill. I got AT5 from emp runs. I did content to get them. Sure, you can say that in exchange I'm getting Legacy Tweak. Well, 1% per level is a joke. It is not worth the time, effort, creds, or $$ that I spent to get AT5.
If a player has AT1, AT2, AT3, AT4, AT5, or ATwhatever now, then they should be given the equivelant of the new AT skill without doing any content. They should still have to pay the SP and creds costs. But ya can't make them do the content.
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Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:29 pm |
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Gurjster
Team: Rank: Main: Gurjit Level: 666 Joined: Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:05 pm Posts: 0 Location: Chatham, England
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Lt.Nelson wrote: I don't mind the SP costs. If new players have to pay the SP costs, then I should too. Otherwise I'd come out with ~1000 SP more than anybody starting after the change.
I'm fine with the skill costing creds. Well, no... I'm fine with it costing creds as long as other skills cost creds. But the concept of paying for skills is almost the stupidest thing I've seen in SS. It only hurts the real noobs. Paying ~300m for a skill does not hurt alts and it leaves the real noobs unable to compete with alts that are the same level or even lower than them.
But yeah, as long as creds for skills is in the game, then I'm fine with the new AT costing creds, as long as we are given back the creds that we paid to train the current AT.
What I AM NOT fine with is having to do new content to train the new AT skill. I got AT5 from emp runs. I did content to get them. Sure, you can say that in exchange I'm getting Legacy Tweak. Well, 1% per level is a joke. It is not worth the time, effort, creds, or $$ that I spent to get AT5.
If a player has AT1, AT2, AT3, AT4, AT5, or ATwhatever now, then they should be given the equivelant of the new AT skill without doing any content. They should still have to pay the SP and creds costs. But ya can't make them do the content.
Totally agree
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Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:50 pm |
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Nukeacow
Team: Rank: Officer Main: NukeACow Level: 7563 Joined: Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:17 pm Posts: 220 Location: 4 Houses from Walter White.
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so, in other words, your saying that ill never be able to get back to AT3 because i spend my points wisley and dont feel like leaving spare skill points laying around, i have all the skills i need and your taking away my ability to every level up again because you think something is broken again, thank you for blowing away another customer.
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Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:04 pm |
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Volkovoy
Team: Rank: Officer Main: Shukhov Yimlevsky Level: 4751 Joined: Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:15 pm Posts: 0 Location: r(t) = f(t)i + g(t)j + h(t)k
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Lt.Nelson wrote: What I AM NOT fine with is having to do new content to train the new AT skill. I got AT5 from emp runs. I did content to get them. Sure, you can say that in exchange I'm getting Legacy Tweak. Well, 1% per level is a joke. It is not worth the time, effort, creds, or $$ that I spent to get AT5.
how about all the time you had AT 4 and 5 while 99% of the SS population only can get to 3? did you not take advantage of that 40% aug boost while you had it? i'd say all of the time you used your AT boost led to gaining more money than you used on those 2 emp runs and was certainly well worth it. the legacy skill is just a way to not completely unacknowledge people who did emp runs in the past and recognize those who have stuck with the game for a while.
And Junkie, you're worried about only being 2% better than some F2P noob? something tells me you've got other skills which will compensate for that, especially since that noob is now pretty useless (no ability to get the New AT).
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Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:35 pm |
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MarloweFaustus
Main: Convivial Level: 1145
Joined: Sun May 15, 2005 9:18 pm Posts: 0
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Lady of Ice wrote: Also, I saw the idea of a new server starting from scratch. I love this idea, and it'd actually be good for the game - I wouldn't mind giving up what I've got for the chance
I would leave if that happens, at least if they didn't keep the old server up.
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Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:48 pm |
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IAmMe2
Main: Cyphe12 Level: 1566
Joined: Fri Dec 02, 2005 11:50 am Posts: 0 Location: Ottawa, Canada
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MarloweFaustus wrote: Lady of Ice wrote: Also, I saw the idea of a new server starting from scratch. I love this idea, and it'd actually be good for the game - I wouldn't mind giving up what I've got for the chance I would leave if that happens, at least if they didn't keep the old server up.
I would prolly leave too... At least I wouldn't be paying for 2 accounts still...
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Sat Sep 16, 2006 2:01 am |
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jsn0X
Main: new charchter Level: 2419
Joined: Sat Oct 02, 2004 1:25 pm Posts: 340 Location: /=Idaho=\
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IAmMe2 wrote: MarloweFaustus wrote: Lady of Ice wrote: Also, I saw the idea of a new server starting from scratch. I love this idea, and it'd actually be good for the game - I wouldn't mind giving up what I've got for the chance I would leave if that happens, at least if they didn't keep the old server up. I would prolly leave too... At least I wouldn't be paying for 2 accounts still...
Im already thinking about leaving ss and playing wow
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Sat Sep 16, 2006 2:43 am |
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Bluejayek
Team: Rank: Main: Bluejayek Level: 3919 Joined: Wed Dec 15, 2004 7:16 pm Posts: 1356
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Is this server resting from scratch a suggestion somebody made? or something more.. Because I totally agree with it and suggested it months ago.
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Sat Sep 16, 2006 7:47 am |
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MarloweFaustus
Main: Convivial Level: 1145
Joined: Sun May 15, 2005 9:18 pm Posts: 0
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Twas a sarcastic remark, I think, that someone made. To equalize all imbalances.
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Sat Sep 16, 2006 8:34 am |
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Enji
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Team: Rank: Officer Main: Enji Level: 1638 Joined: Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:50 pm Posts: 22
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Bluejayek wrote: Is this server resting from scratch a suggestion somebody made? or something more.. Because I totally agree with it and suggested it months ago.
Hell, no. Players have started form scratch, built up their character slowly, it involves a huge amount of time (real life time). And u ask to reset all that ? I would not start again from 0... No way..
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Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:07 pm |
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BAM5992
Main: Goz Level: 1564
Joined: Sat Dec 17, 2005 9:39 pm Posts: 83 Location: Eredar US, Gozmatic (Horde)
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Enji wrote: Bluejayek wrote: Is this server resting from scratch a suggestion somebody made? or something more.. Because I totally agree with it and suggested it months ago. Hell, no. Players have started form scratch, built up their character slowly, it involves a huge amount of time (real life time). And u ask to reset all that ? I would not start again from 0... No way..
if there wasa full game reset I would quit, said and done
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Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:06 am |
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Kinky
Main: Lethal Dosage Level: 2825
Joined: Sat Jul 08, 2006 5:11 am Posts: 14
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I would love a full reset personally. But thats not the point of this thread
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Sun Sep 17, 2006 4:56 am |
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Bluejayek
Team: Rank: Main: Bluejayek Level: 3919 Joined: Wed Dec 15, 2004 7:16 pm Posts: 1356
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One last post by me on the full reset idea, i think that most above lvl 350 will say no, and most below will say yes.
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Sun Sep 17, 2006 6:55 am |
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Demiser of D
Main: Demiser of D Level: 4
Joined: Tue Jun 07, 2005 6:46 pm Posts: 5424 Location: Listening to Fire On High, best song ever.
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how about 5(or however many lvls of AT you could get, max) arranged around uranus, with each one offering AT up to a certain lvl, but requiring a certain lvl of the legacy skill to get into? so, if you have AT 2, you can get into the second station, and lvl to the equivalant of AT 2 there.
i think that would work...
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Sun Sep 17, 2006 7:14 am |
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Kinky
Main: Lethal Dosage Level: 2825
Joined: Sat Jul 08, 2006 5:11 am Posts: 14
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Bluejayek wrote: One last post by me on the full reset idea, i think that most above lvl 350 will say no, and most below will say yes.
I'm 650 with 2 leveled alts.
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