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Post Re: The new ship BPs
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Then you are silly.

You just log in with your normal SS account info. :3


his acc name has an underscore.... which isnt allowed by the wiki thingy. tho it certainly wouldnt be hard to make a new ss acc to post to wiki :P


Yeah, I made one named ShawnMcCall. However I forgot the Password and email to it... :mrgreen:

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please post a pic of the reaver+ when you get it :). i hope it has a nice new glow and graphic lol


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It has been over 3 months and although I have heard alot of rumors on what the Prawn is supposed to be ... I haven't even heard a whisper on where it might drop. Can we snag a hint on this one? Is the BP an actual drop ... or are we supposed to do something magical with all these Prawn Pieces we have laying around?


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It has been over 3 months and although I have heard alot of rumors on what the Prawn is supposed to be ... I haven't even heard a whisper on where it might drop. Can we snag a hint on this one? Is the BP an actual drop ... or are we supposed to do something magical with all these Prawn Pieces we have laying around?


I thought Voomy said it was a t18 HF slave.

But now i'm being told it's a t21 tier2 HF?

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But now i'm being told it's a t21 tier2 HF?




This rumor is why I'm looking for the BP. I'm looking for a T21 ship I could fly comfortably. I don't want a repeat of going so long in a Jujuso'rka because there was really no other UZ or upper end T20 Heavy Fighter to be a Sniper in until the Absconditus / Absentis. The Delquad is the closest choice for T21 ships and while it has nice inbuilt bonuses it's resists are laughable and it has twice as much visibility as any standard T20 Sniper ship.


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Absconditus is actually a step DOWN from the Jujuso'rka :P
But yeah, I have a mountain of prawn pieces that I can't sell to the ai base.
Make them items and worth 20m a pop to the ai?

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The prawn is a t21 HF oriented towards beserkers, the t21 ships that snipers would find useful are the delquad(#1 choice but has the problems you listed) or the poseidon wave(2nd choice but is actually worse than an absentis). The prawn bp must have a horrible drop rate or be bugged because we have killed the uber 20+ times with no luck.


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The prawn is a t21 HF oriented towards beserkers, the t21 ships that snipers would find useful are the delquad(#1 choice but has the problems you listed) or the poseidon wave(2nd choice but is actually worse than an absentis). The prawn bp must have a horrible drop rate or be bugged because we have killed the uber 20+ times with no luck.



I'm just going to take your word that the Wave is supposed to be the Absentis replacement. Tweak vs Ship bonus's the Absentis does more DPS over any time period. And an inbuilt Drone for a class that is supposed to be stealthy Range DPS? I could see it being useful for a Zerker, a drone that does extra damage, possibly self heals, or useful AI debuffs. But a Sniper? I think you are pulling my leg.


Edit: And can the person putting wildly inaccurate stats for all the new ships on Wiki kindly stop, thanks.


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Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:36 pm
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Well, it's far too small for a zerker to use it. Tbh, its too small for a sniper to use it, too.

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I'm just going to take your word that the Wave is supposed to be the Absentis replacement. Tweak vs Ship bonus's the Absentis does more DPS over any time period. And an inbuilt Drone for a class that is supposed to be stealthy Range DPS? I could see it being useful for a Zerker, a drone that does extra damage, possibly self heals, or useful AI debuffs. But a Sniper? I think you are pulling my leg.


In my discussion with jeff about the poor stats of the wave, he explained that I might not like it for berserker because it is for snipers. There are now 4-5poseidon waves in player hands both snipers and berserkers but none of them are used because of how bad a ship it is.

The wave has far to little hull for a t21 ship, the inbuilts are mediocre and the drone has too little range and does pitiful healing(50k over 5minutes)


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I was told the drone was bad, I didn't think it was that bad...

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Only thing I like about most t21ers so far is the graphics

T21 augs I have issue with more so.


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T21 augs suck...

T21 augs are inferior to the combined UZ augs, Emp Augs and Art of Aug, I don't know if it's because the latter are OP'd or the former are too specialised, which forces you to use a different T21 aug that make up for it, but leaves you with an inferior setup to just using T20 augs.

Something I've noticed is that the combo UZ augs add positive stats over several different areas, whereas T21 augs add stats to one or two areas and removes stats from several others or they add stats to two barely related things. I can understand why you'd do that to encourage people to diversify, but if stuff like the combo UZ augs exist no sane person is going to bother... They can just have the best of every world.

Rebalane T20 augs? :P

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More and more oly failed in all areas except giving us something new to do and answer to that assasinat3r is not to make a crap out of all the >t20 gear so they look better .

UZ has such a more elegant and strait forward idea behind it while oly offers nothing in sense of clarity or usefulness . Even all the ai looks the same just a different colour . Dont get me wrong im happy oly came in but half solutions and especially horrible gear ( even worse names for BPs and builded items ) leave a bitter taste behind .
UZ is what made a SS serious game while oly is turning to be a joke even do those 2 expansions are 4 years apart . t21 gear was so much talked about and promised even more so i really do not get why did you trow away the " mystery " balance sheet`s .

So instead of solving those serious issues ( there still is not 1 player that actually told that he/she is impressed with new gear/ships and will use it ) devs waste time away figuring out how bad drone deploying makes C2 looks bad . bah

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Most of UZ is worse than Oly is, looks wise...the looks aren't the issue, tbh oly looks quite nice, the problem lies more with the balancing that took place. The stats aren't technically BAD, they're seem perfectly balanced, in fact; they're just not at all USEFUL.

What it seems like, in fact, is that the stats were made by a group of people that don't actually play the game all that much. Just like me when i was a ftp, suggesting stats for a t20 ship or 20..25...whatever, i knew what I wanted, but i didn't know what was actually useful to the players at that level.

I think that's the main problem here.

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