It can help you. P2W gave us more options. Thanks to those options RE became nr 1 team in score for around a year. Top 3 in power.
But the real work was trust, sharing, helping and grinding.

People want a new server but some of us who have spent years working on this one would really not want that. It sounds all fun and fair to make everyone on the same level except we don't all have a time limit of 2 hours a day to be online. So even if you reset the game there will be those who grind and grind to get to the point they are at now while those who don't and just recently joined will demand another reset.

All economy probs would be solved by increasing n

Also, doesn't this completely miss the point? Arguing that mid-level players quit because there aren't enough mid-level players to play with…

@Hober

So it sounds to me like you are very much taking the jealousy route to explain mid-level dissatisfaction. The fact that a Prawn can be obtained makes a Venaticora seem unappealing. Am I reading you correctly?

You're looking at this issue in a vacuum. I suggest you take a macro viewpoint if you seriously want to see the issues we 'yak on about' when talking about the current game state.

Anything I talk about is presumptive on the game being by and large unchanged, I know the suggestion to kick in another server is a monumental change but its the comparison point. My whole point revolves around the difference between how so called old guard players came up vs how a new presumptive player would.

This is case in point example: "When I played me and my whole team of end gamers did end game content, it was fun, we killed many things, got drops, win". Ok great but one problem, the structure you had back in the day NO LONGER EXISTS. Is that anyone fault? No (excluding magical prescient devs). Does it change how a NEW PLAYER will perceive the game? Yes!

New players CANT do the content with equivalent teams to the one you had because as of this stage they don't exist. As of this moment the ONLY way to advance at the same pace in the game is to utilize the current old guards for runs by your own admission. This means you either mooch off their goodwill as they throw you scraps from runs (since "they" MC a oly run solo how is it fair to them to give you enough rewards to ensure you progress vs a team pooling resources to produce a better team like you enjoyed. The value equation just doesn't stack up).

To add insult to injury, since you cant really pull together a functional system inc all the mods/cmods/RNG drops even if you find an old guard willing to toss you a BP for the item you have to again return to the old guard players to have the thing built. Now you suggest all of this would be untainted by the market economy? That a player should simply ignore the fact that their multi-hundred billion ship they have cobbled together is made out of primarily donations from old players and doesn't at all effect their game play enjoyment at all? Come now, be reasonable.

What if I told you right now the only feasible way to progress from where you stand as a player, at anything close to a decent rate, was to become friends with devs and ask them to give you items? You would call bollox in an instant and rightly so. How does this differ from the current system except that its not ratified?

Hobers points are valid, since your economies are outside the P2P econ its natural for new players to seek to step outside it as well. Sadly the only option is to move to the real world money economy which is a bag of worms so huge im not going to touch it with a barge pole =) ill leave the negative effects to Hober to explain as he has done so.

Vorp

What these guys are describing is right how it is now and why I quit. I could keep up with two accounts when aliens came out just about but now you have to have three accounts (mf sniper needs an engi to power as well as a shm) I just went screw this. Again all this could be solved by more players but idk how we get there.

New server is not a solution as not one of the new server mob have or will address the glaring issues with it.

It sounds like you didn't have enough friends available to do the content you wanted to do. To keep you around, the game would either have to have been bigger or have offered you endgame content that could could solo. Is that accurate?

What game-breaking bugs are you talking about that have chased mid-level players away in droves?

Yeh like these guys say not enough people and the people who are here are benevolent old guarders with 3+ accounts doing the content themselves solo who don't really want to share (can't blame them as they are funding 3+ accounts)

Hober:

What glaring issues?

1. Exploit t+1 issue
You say come down hard on it like it's easily detectable when it happens. By the time admins have a sniff of it it's already permeated through the game. Cash has a habit of that it doesn't just go one layer out from the exploiter. What you going to do ban everyone? The guy who sold something on trade to someone innocently?

2. Someone buying accounts t+1.
A uni in someone starts account trading and gaps themselves way ahead of everyone else

3. Knowledge gap issue
You can't reset knowledge, people will quickly gap on knowledge alone. Within one year the gap between new starters and new old guard will be wide again. What you going to do reset again?

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I don't care how "pro" high end players think they are, if the game was reset entirely and the classes made to have CLEAR strengths and weaknesses early game,

So a reset AND a rebalance then, gee not much work then?