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13 years and still no drone towing FeelsBadMan

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13 years and still no drone towing FeelsBadMan


In fairness, drones simply popped for most of those years.

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anilv wrote:
DarkSteel wrote:
13 years and still no drone towing FeelsBadMan


In fairness, drones simply popped for most of those years.

rip my 100+ Armada Charge Drones

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rip my 100+ Armada Charge Drones


HAHA you've died more than 10 times


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Thyra wrote:
ortizhector18 wrote:
rip my 100+ Armada Charge Drones


HAHA you've died more than 10 times

HAHA curseloser git gud

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While we're talking about drones, remove the IK 20 requirement for T20 Armada Drones, it's nonsensical.

IK20 either requires a month or two of grinding UZ (which a new player who doesn't have T20 drones wouldn't be able to do by themselves) or like 10-15b to buy just the ZACS/Diplomas.

Put yourselves into the shoes of a new engineer, who has maybe 1 billion credits if they're lucky. The best drones they have are probably Jungle ones, which are T12 and get massively outmatched by content at higher levels. There's a T19 subspace healer drone that is completely awful, a bunch of DPS drones that I've never seen anyone use because they're either expensive or bad, and just a big content gap. Either rebalance/make some new drones for people while they are leveling up and grinding to be able to use T20 Armada stuff or remove the IK requirement.


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While we're talking about drones, remove the IK 20 requirement for T20 Armada Drones, it's nonsensical.

IK20 either requires a month or two of grinding UZ (which a new player who doesn't have T20 drones wouldn't be able to do by themselves) or like 10-15b to buy just the ZACS/Diplomas.

Put yourselves into the shoes of a new engineer, who has maybe 1 billion credits if they're lucky. The best drones they have are probably Jungle ones, which are T12 and get massively outmatched by content at higher levels. There's a T19 subspace healer drone that is completely awful, a bunch of DPS drones that I've never seen anyone use because they're either expensive or bad, and just a big content gap. Either rebalance/make some new drones for people while they are leveling up and grinding to be able to use T20 Armada stuff or remove the IK requirement.


IK20 wasn't much of a problem when we had the old AT which rewarded you mentions and dips, but they removed that making grinding valuable commods the only viable way to train up such a skill, I did mention this when they was changing AT (Good change), but foresight isn't everyone's strong point...

Then again I suppose it's the same issue with AT from a new player's perspective, they wouldn't have a clue about the existence of such a skill until they find out they need it.

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New player 1b? The only new player at T20+ I've heard of with *only* one bil was one that constantly changed classes because he *couldn't* choose one class, but didn't want to have more than one character, so he spend his money on resets. The guy made 16 class resets in a month, and averaged 12 per month from there on out.

Even Rendghast makes and keeps more money than that.

No, the issue at that level is what choice do you have *besides* UZ drones? And even then, you really don't have much choice at all.

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Armada Inferno-Heat, Heat, Laser (Low dps unless using Lincin)
Armada Ambush-Energy
BFD 9000-Laser, Energy
Titan Drone-Laser, Energy (Banks out quickly)
BMBD4-Energy (Expensive, Ruin)
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Max235 wrote:
New player 1b? The only new player at T20+ I've heard of with *only* one bil was one that constantly changed classes because he *couldn't* choose one class, but didn't want to have more than one character, so he spend his money on resets. The guy made 16 class resets in a month, and averaged 12 per month from there on out.


Making billions is far less easy than you're imagining when you are just starting out with a single character and have to buy almost everything you need. Over the years I've been playing, most people I've known who were on their first characters at those levels were dirt poor and looked on 10b the same way 90% of the game these days looks on amounts in the trillions.


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Megan and Spirit came back, nothing but a half assed PVE Panther and a half assed PVE Rhino between them. A month later, Megan had her AWC, Spirit has his HM, both were fully geared, and they had a couple hundred billion between them. Neither had played for over 5 years. They're both one character each people. Besides their one shop, neither have built much in the way of stations and the way they explained it, even Hydros+MREs is beyond their capability.


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Max235 wrote:
Megan and Spirit came back, nothing but a half assed PVE Panther and a half assed PVE Rhino between them. A month later, Megan had her AWC, Spirit has his HM, both were fully geared, and they had a couple hundred billion between them. Neither had played for over 5 years. They're both one character each people. Besides their one shop, neither have built much in the way of stations and the way they explained it, even Hydros+MREs is beyond their capability.


What I've been talking about is flying over your head. When you're over that threshold, you're able to do UZ/Most of the content and earn money quickly, case in point being how the two people you mentioned there who were already in UZ ships were able to get to T21 stuff easily. But for Engineers who are just starting out, they're not in a Rhino yet, odds are at best they'll be in Testudo/Astro and be locked from using any decent T20 drones because of the IK20 wall which will cost them 10b in optimal conditions. At best, this is a money wall that costs them more investment at that level of play than any other class, at worst it might turn them off so much that they get bored of grinding to get it and quit.


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